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Pattern welded barrel marks

Posted by Drew Hause on July 7, 2020, 11:18 am

Sam's post, and Bro. Tom's reply got me looking.

L.C. Smith, Maker of Baker Gun, Syracuse, N.Y. marked "Stub Twist" on the rib

L.C. Smith Maker Syracuse with "Stub Twist" on the rib in a different font

c. 1886 L.C. Smith Maker Syracuse Quality No. 3 with "Damascus Steel" on rib in another font

Syracuse No. 2 with "Damascus Steel Barrels" on R barrel

Re: Pattern welded barrel marks

Posted by Drew Hause on July 7, 2020, 11:23 am, in reply to "Pattern welded barrel marks"

Tom is correct that Hunter Arms stopped marking the pattern welded type on the rib or barrel EXCEPT

This is Bro. David's 1897 No. 1, marked "Laminated Steel", which it is not; it's Bernard Ribbon found on occasional No. 1s 1892-1897 and at least 1 1902 F grade hammergun.

Laminated Steel

Posted by Drew Hause on July 7, 2020, 11:32 am, in reply to "Re: Pattern welded barrel marks"

Interestingly this is a No. 1 SN 23404 (probably a "transition gun") with Birmingham Provisional Proofmarks (after proving the "rough forged tubes") on the Laminated Steel barrels. Quality No. 1 had Laminated steel 1890-1898, then "Good Two Rod" Damascus until 1907 when Special Steel was offered.

The barrels, when finished in "black & white" will look something like this

Pattern welded barrel marks

Posted by Drew Hause on July 7, 2020, 11:35 am, in reply to "Laminated Steel"

If anyone has a Hunter Arms Smith with the pattern welded barrel type indicated please post! Let us know the DOM and Grade also, and thanks.

Re: Laminated Steel

Posted by Sam Carpenter on July 19, 2020, 9:16 pm, in reply to "Laminated Steel"
Edited by board administrator July 20, 2020, 8:17 am

Thank you for posing this. I have a Quality No. 1 SN# 34659. It is being restored and I wondered what the bbls were going to look like. I had mistakenly believed it was a zero grad. I'm learning more. Late 91-92.

Re: Pattern welded barrel marks

Posted by Sam Carpenter. on July 19, 2020, 9:20 pm, in reply to "Pattern welded barrel marks"

Mine is an early Hunter Gun. I will post. Bbls look silver now. Someone took steel wool to it and case colors to sell it I guess? Gun shows no mechanical wear. Matthew Begly in OH is restoration bbls and will have Turnbull do case coloring.i will send before and after soon hopefully.

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