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Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by Don Brown on February 25, 2020, 6:18 pm

Hello all,
I'm way out of my element on this one.... I have this LC Smith 16GA double barrel, hammerless, with exceptional engraving. The scenes on the sides of the locks are woodland birds in a circle. I've looked at this website and couldn't figure out which model and or grade it is. According to some of the data, the serial number of 61,082, with this type of barrel markings should place it at 1902 or so.....
It has a number 2 stamped on the receiver under the left side lock.
It has some detractions such as the ejection lever engraving doesn't match up at the top of the receiver, there are some minor dents from a previous removal of the locks and the safety is questionable (I don't have snap caps for 16GA).
Also, all numbers match wherever one is visible....
Any and all info you can provide would be a great help,
Thanks!
DB

Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by Don Brown on February 25, 2020, 6:19 pm, in reply to "Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade...."

Forgot to add: email is para2504@aol.com

Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by Drew Hause on February 25, 2020, 7:07 pm, in reply to "Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade...."

It is a No. 2 Don. Pre-1913 16g Smith guns are grace and elegance defined

It of course needs to be evaluated by a double gun specialist smith before use, and please be aware that it started with 2 9/16" chambers.
Look around the Home Page "Shotguns" and "FAQs" for more information.

Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by David Williamson on February 26, 2020, 6:40 am, in reply to "Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade...."

It will also have .650 bores.

Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by Drew Hause on February 26, 2020, 10:37 am, in reply to "Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade...."

Don: the No. 2 usually had a single quail in a circle on the left lockplate, but there are variants. You said "birds" - could you please post an image?

Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by Don Brown on February 26, 2020, 5:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade...."

Gentlemen, thank you for your rapid and informative responses! Drew, what I meant about the birds was that there are one bird in a circle on each lock plate side. The bird in your photo, as well as the surrounding engraving, looks almost identical in placement and style to my left side lock plate. The bird on the right side lock plate has a long pointy beak. I posted many photos on Gunboards in the shotgun forum (with 50 views and not a single comment) before I found this forum.
Here is the link (I hope that's OK):

https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?1135727-Need-help-ID-ing-LC-Smith-model-grade

Thank you!

Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade....

Posted by Don Brown on February 26, 2020, 5:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Need help ID'ing LC Smith model / grade...."

...upon further research, it appears to be a woodcock on the right lock plate....
DB

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