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Flat or concave rib

Posted by Drew Hause on November 3, 2018, 4:37 pm

Gene asked a good question, which is not addressed in Houchins'.
I believe, whether pre- or post-1913 or Reg or FW frame, that 00, 0, Field and Ideals had a flat rib; higher grade guns with the precious metal inlay had a concave rib

This Skeet Special looks to have a flat rib

Learned comments would be appreciated!
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Re: Flat or concave rib

Posted by Drew Hause on November 3, 2018, 4:52 pm, in reply to "Flat or concave rib"

on not

No. 2 with flat rib

Field with concave rib

Flat or concave rib on SSP

Posted by Drew Hause on November 3, 2018, 4:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Flat or concave rib"

And were all SSP ribs flat?

1939 DeLuxe with a flat rib

Posted by Drew Hause on November 3, 2018, 5:11 pm, in reply to "Flat or concave rib on SSP"

More ribs

Posted by Drew Hause on November 4, 2018, 3:35 pm, in reply to "1939 DeLuxe with a flat rib"

No. 00 with concave rib

Marlin era Ideal with flat SSP rib

Standard Option Symbol

Posted by Drew Hause on November 4, 2018, 4:34 pm, in reply to "Flat or concave rib"

'SP' is the option symbol for the SSP rib; 'V' for ventilated rib.
There is no symbol listed for a flat rib or concave rib.

Brophy also only states "either flat or concave" without further explanation

Re: Standard Option Symbol

Posted by Michael Harris on November 5, 2018, 12:41 pm, in reply to "Standard Option Symbol"

Drew, As far as I know, all SSP ribs were flat but I would never say that is 100% fact!

Barrel Markings as a Means of Determining Originality

Posted by Tom Breeden on March 2, 2019, 1:24 pm, in reply to "More ribs"

In the current LCSCA Journal issue (Spring 2019) there is an article entitled 'Barrel Markings as a Means of Determining Originality'. The article references this post so I thought I would tag it with this entry. In this post you can observe barrel markings that are partially obliterated. In my journal article there is an Eagle grade shown with the same partially obliterated lettering that appears new without shell markings on the standing breech.

Over the years I have noticed that these faded markings appear mostly on grades that have top barrel stampings as opposed to top barrel engravings. This would mean that the lettering anomaly would most likely appear on Eagles and lower grades.

In years past I thought that the faded markings were due to careless polishing before a reblue which would, of course, indicate a non-original gun. My thinking resulted in passing on guns that may have been original.

A closer look at top barrel markings indicates to me that misaligned dies may account for many partially faded legends. In contrast, I cannot recall a partially faded engraved legend but I have observed 'softened' engravings indicative of a reblue.

It is important to sort out what is original and what is not because of the premium prices attached to the former.

There are other means of detecting originality as mentioned in the journal article. If you are reading this and not a member your are not only missing out on this subject but many others as well. Check the opening page of this site for membership information.

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