Jim, There is a second alleged grade 5 on gunbroker at the present time. Description indicates that it is a 20 guage gun, but the number on the forened does not match the barrels and reciever. Pictures are pretty weak. Reserve has been met at a lot less than 8K. I've no interest in the sale of this gun, I only mention it because I believe you folks may be talking about two different guns. Gotta run Jim, heard of rabbits coming over the hill!