The two individuals Drew noted above are not members of the LCSCA and don't post here to my knowledge, but they do post to other forums and are repeatedly exposed as the frauds and charlatans they are. No one has done more research on the history of Hunter Arms and Smith guns than Dr. Jim, and together he and Drew are THE authorities on Smith guns. But understand that there are no shortages of pretenders; those living amongst us and those dead. To illustrate the ineptitude of some of these characters, consider this experience. When I first acquired the above referenced "SPECIAL" we didn't have the LCSCA, or the records access we have now; so I contacted a now deceased pretender who boldly and proudly proclaimed himself "THE LC SMITH MAN" in an effort to try and understand what it was that I'd acquired. So I sent this individual detailed photos and he responded with a lengthy hand-written letter (which I still have) advising me (among other things) that my 1901 vintage gun had been engraved by Albert Kraus's apprentice Charles Jerred. Not long afterwards I personally researched Charles Jerred whereupon I confirmed that Charles Jerred was indeed an apprentice to Kraus; however I also learned that Charles Jerred wasn't even born until 1928 and further, that he didn't begin to work at Hunter until 1945. What I learned was easily discovered, and obviously it'd be impossible for a guy born in 1928 to have engraved a gun built in 1901; so clearly this self-anointed "LC SMITH MAN exposed himself for the uneducated puffer he actually was. My point is that one should always be skeptical of any information about a Smith gun unless one also check here. We don't know all there is to know, and don't claim too; but if that information or artifact is original, the LCSCA is the best source to check for confirmation.