Maybe. I'm just not seeing a lot of older, convention going collectors who (msg)
Posted by Bethany in PA on 4/21/2021, 8:40 am, in reply to "How about a compromise, a newly updated poseable body that is better than the IT dolls"
like articulation. Some do, but not as many as those on social media would like to believe. I can tolerate it but I'm not a fan because I don't "play" with my dolls. I view them, well, differently so how they sit in a chair doesn't really matter to me as much. Nice, yes, but not necessary. |
A good percentage of older collectors don't care about photos or posing or Instagram likes and follows. To them, Barbie is a model and a mannequin. That's not true in all cases, certainly, but it is for a lot. Right now, I'm a member of three clubs that hold monthly Zoom meetings. I see the photos they post on on the private club page. I hear the way they talk about their dolls, what they like and don't like, and it's a vastly different world from other social media pages. These are the convention goers and they aren't spending hours posing a doll like a person or doing deboxing videos for YouTube and debating poseability.
They want a nice doll they can either keep in the box as is or debox and put in their curio cabinet. They want a lovely, gorgeous ballgown doll. They don't care if she moves or not and if they wanted an IT-type doll? That's the convention they'd go to. They want Barbie as the Barbie that they know and not a copy of whatever IT is doing, especially with what a lot of older collectors call "the IT prune face." No insult intended. It's just how some collectors refer to the faces, just as IT fans call Barbie "the smiling blonde bimbo."
I have three IT dolls and, while I appreciate the quality, the face molds leave me cold. The screening isn't pixelated, but they don't move me or want me to buy more. Perhaps it's an age thing (though I'm not really as old as most convention goers) or perhaps it's just my taste/what I'm accustomed to having.
After the 2019 convention, there were a lot of newer collectors who were disappointed in both the doll and the convention. They wanted something more tailored to their tastes, which is fine. What they got was too "old school" for them and I think until the "old guard" stops going and the newer collectors start/can afford to go, there will constantly be a clash over the doll.
I also don't see Mattel doing another articulated body at the IT level because that's not what they want to be as a company. They've chosen, imo, to go after companies like MGA and view them as competition and not IT. To them right now, I think IT is an afterthought because IT is collector-only and Mattel makes their money in the toy aisle in Target.
In this, I don't think anyone will ever be happy because Mattel is trying to please too many different markets with the convention doll and end up not pleasing any of them.
and something so sublime, that Us older collectors and new collectors will just flip over with genuine tailoring and classic collectabilty no large playline heads and no cheap hair fibers, and a true model body with beautiful lines. With beuatiful screening, because IT seems to be killing it on all those levels, and they sorta did the Ruth Handler switch on Mattel, and Bild Lili.
After the 2018 convention, I had a "conversation" (more like me conversing and her yelling) with someone on Facebook who asserted that the "mix and match playline giftset" that Carlyle designed was going to become the most sought-after convention doll ever. Her reasoning was that most "contemporary" collectors wanted these kinds of collector dolls. I argued that this doll wasn't really collector level and that it wasn't what those who attend convention, who tend to be older, more traditional collectors want. She pretty much called me an idiot and said "just you wait and see" and "guaranteed" that the 2018 would be worth more than any other.
At last check on eBay, the 2018 set was selling for around $150 or less. The 2013 doll, La Reine de la Nuit from New Orleans (which is one of the most expensive convention dolls) is selling for $500 for the redhead and $800-$900 for the AA, far outpacing the 2018 doll.
So I think what I'm trying to say is that I think Mattel is listening to one, their bottom line, which makes sense and two, a minority but vocal group of online collectors who seem to crave cheap posablity over anything else. What the should be doing is listening to their bottom line and the people who actually attend convention and not those who are busy accumulating followers on Instagram for their "cool Barbie pix."
I could, of course, be wrong, but convention is expensive and the young collectors who seem to want things like the 2018 set? Can't afford to attend. So it makes sense to cater to those who can.
Although the “Tribute” giftset was the official doll of the 2009 national Barbie Convention in Washington, D.C., Golden Gala was by far the more popular since she was the first Silkstone ever officially created for a US convention.