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Generally speaking, it's really inspiring to have a producer that loves what you do and can collaborate with you in the creative process.

We had that with our 2012 album in Steve Bartek. His son Christopher was the engineer. Unfortunately we didn't get to see it all the way through as Steve had to move on with his film score work. (which is his livelihood) So we ended up throwing together various tracks we had been working on. It wasn't a REAL album for us;

We had done Mr Farmer as a tribute to Sky Saxon for a separate project.

We did Charlotte's Remains for an album by the Fuzztones.

We had written World Citizen as the theme song for a documentary about Garry Davis.

The recordings of the old SAC songs were done more as a research project. The idea was to see if we still sounded like the SAC after 40 plus years. But, it was mainly for our own edification, not intended to be released as an album.

We did however, intend to make a new album so when we came to that impasse we just released what we had in the can.

Since then we have recorded a few other songs with a few different producers. All of whom were into the band but for one reason or another those songs have been somewhat prematurely aborted, not entirely though.

We did a new recording of Incense and Peppermints with Ken Roberts that was primarily done for licensing purposes.

We also recorded four new songs with Kerry Brown as producer. A project that started of with Billy Corgan.

So we have five songs to release. But, we are in the process of re thinking them. Too much time goes by and you start changing things and getting new ideas.

The goal is to revisit this stuff and get it all out this year.