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Utd spending (Psr)

Posted by Moshpit <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Moshpit' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:18 am

Despite winning fuck all and nearly being relegated. They are able to buy ollie Watkins as villa who were in the champions league, have to sell players.

It makes no sense whatsoever does it.

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Posted by Scooby_blue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Scooby_blue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 1:11 pm, in reply to "Utd spending (Psr) "

Until they tried to break the cartel, Villa were one of the turkeys that voted for Christmas when it came to PSR/FFP.

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Posted by Platinii <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Platinii' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 11:46 am, in reply to "Utd spending (Psr) "

What's even more laughable is that Ratcliffe was pleading poverty only a few months ago, as yet again, he binned several hundred workers.

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Posted by Blueskiesahead <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Blueskiesahead' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 11:58 am, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

And nobody in the media calls him out!

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Posted by thecadet <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=thecadet' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 12:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Simon Jordan calls him out several times a week on TalkSport, gone as far as suggesting the Financial Conduct Authority should have sanctioned him for misleading the markets

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Can't abide him, but he's quite consistent in challenging the party lines most pundits are terrified to cross.

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Posted by KentBlue81 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=KentBlue81' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 2:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Yeah like you say he calls him out regularly and the US authorities for the lack of action concerning his statement that they would have run out of money by November.

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Posted by Iegs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Iegs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 12:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

keysie does

why are you so argumentative? this is obvious stuff

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Not one article. Basically said they'd go bankrupt by December, binned several hundred workers then spent £135million on two money grabbing players.

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Posted by Dt_Kowalski <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Dt_Kowalski' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 10:31 am, in reply to "Utd spending (Psr) "

The Premier League are scared to death of these big clubs forming the super league so they will continue to allow them to get away with murder. Essentially we are just the cannon fodder for the "Big 6", there to be beaten by these clubs. The Asian markets want o see Man Utd and Liverpool pump Sunderland and Bournemouth and couldn't care less about a fixture between Everton and Brighton. We are just a side dish, a highlights package of look what else happened in the premier league to day if you want. If these clubs ever forced the premier league to giving them an extra cut of the revenue from their TV rights then we might as well all go home as we'll probably never win anything ever again. At that point I'd say fcuk off to your super league and leave us in the English league.

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Posted by Hand_in_Glove <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Hand_in_Glove' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 12:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Still waiting to see some of these "big 6" benefits for Spurs

feel like we're the cannon fodder actually

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Posted by Teflon_Don <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Teflon_Don' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Spurs are the extra vote for the shithouse five to ensure that their little cartel can’t be voted against when it benefits them. Spurs are basically the token admittance to allow themselves to take control of the votes.

You’re a patsy club.

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Wrong

you need 14 votes not 15

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Spurs are a money making machine and as long as Levy is there they'll continue to do everything they can to keep being that machine. Trophies aren't the main thing for Levy it's money.

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This is it

Would just like to see them have a proper go

They’ll always spend some money but never on anybody who will hurt the wage structure

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whooo remembers the super league

why are you so argumentative? this is obvious stuff

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but what did we get out of that?

im trying to work out some tangible benefits

other than levy wanting to hang around with the bigger boys at the meetings

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Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 1:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

You get to be in the super league when it happens. If it was based purely on football you’d be nowhere near it

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So I as a fan get nothing then

I don’t want to see or be in a super league

I want to see my team just try and win the league & fa cup

Based on “football” the only teams who get in are the ones who pay the top wages

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Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 3:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

I see what you mean mate, thought you meant the club as a whole.

I’d like the super league to happen tbh but I’d rather the clubs who want it left completely and let everyone else go back to the normal English football pyramid just won’t the the so called six

CHEER UP, PLUMS

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Posted by Spart <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Spart' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 3:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

This is where I am with it, I'd also like to see them barred from competing in the FA Cup and anything else domestic too.

If you leave for a league not governed by the FA then you shouldn't have any business competing in FA governed competitions.

Having said all that, I'd imagine they'd just buy up an existing, local EFL club and turn that into their academy.....Tranmere fans could finally get to expose their RS pretentions without fear of mockery.

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Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 3:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Urgh. The worst of both worlds

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Posted by efcman4ever <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=efcman4ever' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 12:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

You are in it to make the numbers up.

15 clubs voting in changes gets the 75% needed to vote against the greedy twats.

14 doesn't.

How can you tell if someone is a Kopite? If the hat, scarf, T shirt or tattoo isn't enough of a clue, they will have told you within two sentences. Basically, it's a cult.

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14 does

and even if we are in it to make up the numbers - what is the benefit? that's the bit im trying to work out

plenty of teams out of it have a far bigger wages / turnover ratio than us... if we are not willing to spend more on wages we'll never ever compete

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14 is the number needed to make rule change

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WELL ASIDE FROM THAT!

*STOMPS OFF*

How can you tell if someone is a Kopite? If the hat, scarf, T shirt or tattoo isn't enough of a clue, they will have told you within two sentences. Basically, it's a cult.

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Posted by ddarko <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ddarko' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:59 am, in reply to "Utd spending (Psr) "

it beggars belief that any clubs apart from the snidey six don't get together and veto this PSR bollocks.
Can't even be down to self-preservation anymore as they'll all get stung eventually whilst the gap grows wider

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Posted by Dirk Hoffman <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Dirk+Hoffman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 12:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

there has to be a majority of 15 clubs voting for any change.

that's why they included Spurs in their cartel.

The only survivor of the National People's Gang.

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wrong

14 teams need to agree to force a change

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Posted by holgerczukay <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=holgerczukay' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 10:52 am, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

I think the likes of palace, Brighton, Bournemouth etc want to keep it, as it helps them from falling from their mid table happy place, which they have no ambition of ever breaking.

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Posted by Lance Drysdale <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Lance+Drysdale' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 12:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Not everyone wants world domination or even a slice of it.

There'll be plenty of older heads at Brighton and Bournemouth (perhaps Palace too if they saw some of the Noades years) who will be happy to still have a club, let alone one that's batting way above its average.

When you've had winding-up orders, CVAs and a real threat of extinction, then some rules that help limit the damage that hubristic lunatics and assorted megalomaniacs can do are not the worst thing in the world. Sure, it means you'll never be able to compete with clubs with a bigger reach, deeper catchment or those who are just more devious, but it was ever thus. For a lot of clubs, this is just a different badge for the same old thing, but with more brakes.

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Maybe, but i can't see why they wouldn't vote to cap spending at the same limit for all teams, rather than continue to support the cartel.

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Not 100% sure of your point here, am hardly a PSR expert and neither do I pretend to speak for Brighton or Bournemouth, but . . .

If there was a choice between the current model and a single cap for all teams, and if my club were still in the Premier League and able to vote on that, then I'd expect them to stick with how it is now. For a lot of the reasons expressed above - some of which may still resonate at clubs like Bournemouth and Brighton because just like my club they were almost kaput themselves.

If there was an option of a single cap, then I'm not sure how it would benefit those teams (or my team) if the cap had no reference to your own revenue. It'd just bring with it unnecessary levels of risk of past failures being revisited on the future. I wouldn't personally want my club going anywhere near something that worked like that and it's founded in self-preservation. It would have absolutely nothing to do with supporting a cartel and if that was a consequence of the decision, then I'd live with it.

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Aye, its no good us complaining about the excesses of the slimey six when we helped create them in the first place and were too stupid/deluded to ensure we secured our own place in the club.

A lot of us blues don't realise that being perennial Premier League members is the pinnacle for supporters of most other clubs, not the minimum requirement.

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Posted by Iegs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Iegs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:21 am, in reply to "Utd spending (Psr) "

it makes perfect sense really. a select few clubs can do whatever they want and the rest have to constantly penny pinch and eventually sell all their good players.

why are you so argumentative? this is obvious stuff

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Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:48 am, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

Yes, it’s performing the exact function it was brought in for.

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Posted by westy <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=westy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:32 am, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

This is it.

They were £40 million over on PSR a few seasons ago and had it written off by Masters.

We got repeatedly nailed to the wall for half of that.

The system is designed to benefit a few specific, powerful teams and screw all others.

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I'm still amazed the Man U £40million covid allowance hasn't been challenged. No other club that season in question claimed even £1mill. Same goes with the allowance granted for Ratcliffe buying their shares.

It's so openly bent.

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you only have to look at the replies on twitter to us selling the womens team to realise how thick and uneducated to the world outside the top of the premier league fans of these lot are.

they dont understand that they are being given a free pass. to them its "because we are man utd/liverpool etc"*. they have no concept of the shady goings on that are allowed to happen to keep their noses in the trough and instead have the temerity to criticise clubs that get sanctioned for spending a fraction of what they do.

*as if its some kind of lanyard to wave at a bouncer simply because of "who" they are.

How can you tell if someone is a Kopite? If the hat, scarf, T shirt or tattoo isn't enough of a clue, they will have told you within two sentences. Basically, it's a cult.

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This.....there was a link posted on one of my Whatsapp family group chats at the weekend of a link to a BBC article by one of the family kopites. They basically cited it as "for context, because everyone is crying about us FINALLY spending money".

I couldn't be arsed to challenge it, this shit is an ingrained in them as accepting whatever Trump says is ingrained into MAGA loons, its a waste of time and effort.

Better to just let them carry on in their deluded little minds now and save ourselves the stress of being bothered about it.

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Posted by Beldale blue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Beldale+blue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 10:32 am, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

To be fair, they've never spent big.
Apart from the time, recently, when they broke the world transfer record for a centre half. But that was a one off, to be fair.
Oh, and the time they broke the world transfer record for goalie, but that was a one off as well.
Oh, and spending 80 odd million pounds on Nunez, which was a one off in the context of spending money on a centre forward.
There was the £60 odd million for Keita, which was a one off, as he was a midfielder.
The sort of contracts recently signed by Van Dead and Salah, where both one off deals.
If you disregard these, and many other, one off spends, it's fair to say they don't normally spend big.

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one of the main news outlets was reporting their recent signings and said something like “now historically they’ve not been known for spending money” . just one of those things that’s repeated so much it becomes accepted as fact

why are you so argumentative? this is obvious stuff

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It's unbelievable.

Emperor's new clothes territory.

Same as when Steven Gerrard was a bastion of fair play.

Say something often enough and it becomes "a" truth.

How can you tell if someone is a Kopite? If the hat, scarf, T shirt or tattoo isn't enough of a clue, they will have told you within two sentences. Basically, it's a cult.

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Sometimes you feel like the little dutch boy trying to plug his finger to prevent the escape of a tsunami of football bullshit by the RS and its client journalists.

In the end you aren't going to save the village, you are just going to get covered in bullshit and have a very sore finger too, so what's the point?

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Posted by Alex_T <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Alex_T' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:20 am, in reply to "Utd spending (Psr) "

This explains a bit

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/man-utd-remain-within-psr-102000055.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAswPhFx6B2VyLydzubsJe5oMsG62pNbST5MEX8EamxnAmtGCRLqjPgJ-5oBTLKQ0XhyrqEYgPg5-6NbQmIepYP650-YhUoe7RUsjIA2uCb6HxXYIiBX-NbBp5SxQILVkkce0-0CccRQ0cldld72I50wGd5ljU1yaZcTXscTyy7d

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Posted by Heebee_GB <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Heebee_GB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2025, 9:30 am, in reply to "Re: Utd spending (Psr) "

So accountancy sleight of hand. Why doesn’t everyone else do it?

“If this Iranians got the ####ing dough that he claims we have, we want ####ing Mourinho lad and if not Mourinho we want ####ing Pellegrini right. Everton aren’t we ey, EVERTON ARENT WE!?”

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because - points deductions for everyone else.

the mitigations we offered in our hearing we completely reasonable but were thrown out resulting in a points deduction.

and then you look at chelsea selling hotels to themselves and thats alright.

we were building a ground and they were buying players. we were told the moshiri loan money "couldnt not be guaranteed to result in an on the field advantage". except we were building a ground whilst weakening the squad to fund it. so it was obvious where our money was going - and it wasnt going towards an on field advantage - a quick glance at the league position will tell a blind man on a galloping horse that.

there are two sets of rules in effect. you have to watch what these do to set a precedent and then follow. if we did it first we would get battered for it. if we follow them (before the loophole is closed) then you are on safer ground.

How can you tell if someone is a Kopite? If the hat, scarf, T shirt or tattoo isn't enough of a clue, they will have told you within two sentences. Basically, it's a cult.

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Aye, imagine if we were owned by an accountant the stuff we could do

..................................

I can't go to jail, my mommas cooking chicken for dinner

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it wouldnt matter mate.

masters said there were big clubs and small clubs in that parliamentary committee hearing.

right there is the blueprint for how the league works.

How can you tell if someone is a Kopite? If the hat, scarf, T shirt or tattoo isn't enough of a clue, they will have told you within two sentences. Basically, it's a cult.

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