Posted by Funkzilla on July 22, 2025, 4:08 pm, in reply to "Gary Stevenson"
his video on property prices a few days ago was great. He's really honing down the message.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Dylan Blue on July 22, 2025, 12:31 pm, in reply to "Gary Stevenson"
I’d recommend the book.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Platinii on July 22, 2025, 11:51 am, in reply to "Gary Stevenson"
Billionaires devise and control the game, and the government work for them. Including Labour.
The game will not be changed to help people, because sociopaths do not care about the masses, so the only way to beat it is to STOP SPENDING WITH CORPORATIONS. Stop giving your money to companies who ARE the problem.
If everyone changed their spending habits by just 20%, that would move £350billion from toxic corporations, who do not pay corporation tax, do not pay staff a living wage, exploit poorly paid staff abroad, do not give suppliers a fair price and do not care about the environment.
This leads to billions ending up with the very wealthy in the form of dividends paid, and huge bonuses and salary at the top. NONE of this money ever sits in the economy. It disappears into tax havens or into assets that make further money. This means the ordinary economy is continually shrinking, even though the top level figures are at record levels. THIS is the wealth gap, which is increasing exponentially, and is the reason people can't even afford to buy a house until they're about 35, and the cost of living crisis is just the norm now. This is not normal, healthy or necessary.
The only way to defeat it, is to play the game in a different way. Use ethical businesses that pay their workers a living wage. This gives workers more money which they'll spend in local economies, boosting other similar businesses. This generates more tax from higher wages and more tax from corporation tax and sole trader taxes. These companies treat other suppliers ethically, instead of the horrific price strangling that exists from giant corporations. Again, businesses benefit, generating greater profits, and more taxes.
Overall, people become wealthier, and because far more tax is automatically generated (by transferring spending streams away from tax avoiders), we either have an improvement in infrastructure due to increased tax funds, a reduction in deficit or a reduction in tax rates for all, because there are less tax avoiders. More likely a mixture of all three.
I'll keep banging on about this until the day I cark it, but this inequality will only ever get worse, because we are heading towards far right autocracies funded by giant corporations and hedge funds. Once we lose the ability for any small business to compete, we are cooked. It's basically then a corporate 1984. Until then we have a chance to completely reverse this.
People genuinely have the power, because at the moment they cannot stop us spending with ethical businesses, but we have to wake the fcuk up and recognise the consequences of every pound that we spend and do it before they are all squeezed into oblivion.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Dirk Hoffman on July 22, 2025, 3:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
Starmer's already planning on signing areas of the UK to Blackrock, calling them 'freeport areas'.The only survivor of the National People's Gang.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Platinii on July 22, 2025, 4:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
Fcuking hell, just give them the keys to the country now. So tax dodging corporations are going to pay even less and make even more profit, whilst we all swim in the financial sewers?
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Still Bracewell on July 22, 2025, 12:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
Agree with that. Still can't believe the number of people who still buy stuff off Amazon. I stopped using them years ago. Its a way we can let these cunts know.Formerly this is Bracewell
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by SnafflesBlue on July 22, 2025, 3:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
No ethical consumption under capitalism. Someone's getting shafted whoever you buy it off. But Amazon are such a mask-off pack of wankers I dropped it ages ago.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Platinii on July 22, 2025, 4:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
If you go to a local shop or café that pays a living wage, gives staff their tips, treats suppliers properly, pays taxes and isn't price gouging customers, then there is. It might hit the pocket of consumers more in the early stages, but in time everyone will be way better off.
Capitalism can't work without a socialist influence, but it's possible.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Barra6 on July 22, 2025, 1:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
I've worked in retail for decades.
The one thing I've learnt is that customers value convenience above EVERYTHING.
Even price.
Amazon, Wonga, Klarna, Pharmacy2U, Hello Fresh, Just Eat, Uber...etc
They all make stuff we want easier to get. And that wins.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Platinii on July 22, 2025, 4:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
That's a current mindset not an actual physical necessity, for huge amounts of people. How many are desperate to save time on everything, so they can spend hours wasting that saved time watching and interacting with shite on screens.
It's hugely psychological too. Ooh shiny new thing you didn't need delivered to your door in one hour. Make you happy. Fills hole in life. Not. Repeat ad nauseum.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Platinii on July 22, 2025, 12:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
Exactly. If there was a seismic shift in shopping habits based on ethics, there's nothing they could do, but they sure as hell would panic into trying. Like McDonalds selling 'healthy' 'food'.
Not used them for about 15+ years and remarkably I'm still able to survive. I haven't even mentioned worker's rights and conditions, which are draconian to say the least, and they scrap thousands of tons of perfectly useable products each year, because suppliers can't afford their storage fees. They're the epitome of everything that is wrong with consumer companies nowadays.
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Alex_T on July 22, 2025, 12:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary Stevenson"
Thing is even if you jibbed your morals Amazon is fucking shite to use, the app is shite and just floods what you search with sponsored items,unless youre prime you have to pay at least £35 before you get free delivery
I just buy direct from the producer you usually get a better deal and if on a mailing list offers, also means youre not giving your wedge to a tax avoiding pound shop lex luthor, and if its small firms/independents helps themI can't go to jail, my mommas cooking chicken for dinner
Re: Gary Stevenson
Posted by Tonytaxi1970 on July 22, 2025, 11:10 am, in reply to "Gary Stevenson"
on July 22, 2025, 10:54 am