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16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Aberblue1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Aberblue1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 6:52 pm

What do we think of this idea, fellow WSAG Brains Trust members?

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Est-1878 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Est-1878' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 5:25 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

yes from me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXI7i1rfM6I&pp=ygUTbmlnaHQgcHJvd2xlciBhYyBkYw%3D%3D

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:50 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Play on for me

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Sarflondonblue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Sarflondonblue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:48 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

all for it here.

Much more likely to be worrying about the implications of long term policy that a 80 year old.
They pay tax, can get prosecuted as an adult, own property, have sex etc etc.
At the moment they could reach 18 and get sent to some god awful war to get killed by a government that they had no part in electing.
I would imagine that the turnout for that age group will be quite low, but its terrible at every age so they have as much right not to vote as anyone else.

Knock on I say, especially as it was in the manifesto of the elected government.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by AndyIsOurKing <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=AndyIsOurKing' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 2:43 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Exactly this.

I have more of an issue with ex-pats, that don't live here and don't pay taxes here being able to vote.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Aberblue1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Aberblue1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 4:54 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

They're not ex-pats, they're immigrants.

Keep on emphasising this, it makes their heads explode.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by bigsteefc <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=bigsteefc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 4:07 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

This all day.

1=20

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by SnafflesBlue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=SnafflesBlue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:59 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Aye. I think if you introduce the discipline of voting at that kind of age, surround it with discussions and "citizenship" stuff, but still offer the chance not to vote if you ask them to think about it and justify why not, then longer term it might just address the turnout thing.

I think most 16 year olds are desperate to be considered adults. If you give them something that signifies you trust them to act in an adult way, then they'll seize on it.

I did a bit of work as a polling clerk in the past. There were old people coming in who clearly had no capacity to really understand what they were doing or what they were voting for, it was just muscle memory. The number of clueless 16/17 year olds is probably no different to the number of those kind of people (in fact it's statistically probably a lot fewer).

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Sarflondonblue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Sarflondonblue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:03 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

im surprised there has been as much pushback as I have seen.
Even in my group of mates on Whatsapp, though I did notice that those most against were the ones with teenage kids, moaning about how they cant even keep their room tidy let alone chose a government.

does having a teenager automatically turn people into a misery arse?

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by SnafflesBlue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=SnafflesBlue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:11 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Seems that way.
The teenagers I know have way more shit to deal with than I ever did but are also massively better-adjusted and more personable than I ever was.

You can't generalise I know, and clearly there are some bellends among them, but I'd not want to be that age in 2025 that's for sure.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Madjens <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Madjens' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:28 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

my lad cant even chose which football team to play for next season or what he wants for tea tonight.

they shouldnt be allowed to vote

@Cesc_Pistol

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Fazak_Blue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Fazak_Blue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 7:35 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Maybe he's waiting for your choice first before committing to answering 👀

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by StringerBellend01 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=StringerBellend01' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 2:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

This is bollocks to be fair mate

I wanna moonwalk son but life’s a shithouse

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by carlos_the_jackal <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=carlos_the_jackal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 1:23 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

With all due respect Mr Calvert-Lewin, your son has been eligible to vote for 10 years now.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 2:26 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:51 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Surely he wont vote then ...Others who take more of an interest will ..

I dont know what I want for my tea either to be fair mate and i'm 52

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Essex Bee3 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Essex+Bee3' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:33 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

My daughters bf is cooking us a curry tonight .

Can't wait

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:37 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Essex Bee3 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Essex+Bee3' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:46 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Hes from Bradford and his dads best mate is from Bangladesh and has sent the recipe .

If is isn't susan perb i will be surprised

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Dirk Hoffman <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Dirk+Hoffman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 5:38 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

I am drooling.

The only survivor of the National People's Gang.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Aberblue1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Aberblue1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:14 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

I'm having bangers and mash tonight it that helps.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Wolf-stein <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Wolf-stein' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:40 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

I had that last night with beans, it was ace.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 11:18 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

cor

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by gaizka6 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=gaizka6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:33 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

I blame the parents.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by No_One_Ever_Replies <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=No_One_Ever_Replies' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:35 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Harsh on the milkman this

👀

It’s top quality stuff this!

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Lombardo <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Lombardo' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 9:59 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

All for it me. Got a lot more at stake in the next ten years of the country than most of the population.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Toe_bunger <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Toe_bunger' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 9:57 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

The funny thing is the current labour party assuming they'll benefit. The absolute tits!!

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Sherpa <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Sherpa' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:32 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Surely if any party will benefit it will be the Labour Party?

NB - I've done no research into this. I just assume the 16 to mid-20s demographic are more generally to the left in politics.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Toe_bunger <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Toe_bunger' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:37 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

traditionally, yes. But with the current shit show it'll be the Greens that benefit most

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 10:52 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

My worry is reform .. sorry kids

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Domi5 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Domi5' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 1:09 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

My missus* is a deputy head at a Warrington high school (with a catchment in what is considered a 'deprived' area) and at the election they did a kids play-along mock-election.

Reform and Labour basically tied (Labour won narrowly on actual votes). Greens next. Tories nowhere.

Reform won massively in the boys vote.

*probably - try getting her to though!

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 3:47 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

arf

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Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by syzlack <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=syzlack' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 9:40 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Cant smoke but can vote!!!

Pffffft

Bring down the smoking age limit and I think it could work.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by G92 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=G92' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 9:40 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Can imagine a load of 16 and 17 year old lads voting for Farage. Well of those who will - hardly any 18 year olds vote so can't see it making any difference to any final result so a big shrug here.
On principle, though I would make anyone whatever age take some kind of test to prove they have the competency to make an informed decision to vote and ban anyone who gets their political opinions from the social media bubble they live in. But that's just me leaning a bit to the right this morning as Bill Hicks would say...

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by oh_yeah <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=oh_yeah' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 9:34 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Just an extra vote for the parents isn't it?

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by pea45 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=pea45' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 9:31 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Free Fortnite skins if you vote Conservative

It's a Grand old team to go to jail for

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Blueskiesahead <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Blueskiesahead' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 6:22 am, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

As Brexit proved, they have more right than some of the older generation.

'The time I've spent - but never feels wasted. Always something to make me arf'

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by ically <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ically' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 8:52 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

I think at this moment in time it might be the only policy that gives them a chance at re-election,
The only reasoning behind it.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Barra6 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Barra6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 9:01 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

TBF it was in the manifesto before they knew they'd be a shit show.

Also I think it likely opens things up on the left....so not so much Labour as the Greens / whatever Sultana comes up with.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by ically <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ically' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 5:37 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

The amount of row backs Starmers been involved in from before he became leader to now, I’d never of believed he’d implement this,
True about the greens/Sultana , even reform for the thick kids, but that’s on him/them.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Bainesy003 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Bainesy003' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 8:39 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

This is great news

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Winston_OBoogie <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Winston_OBoogie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:36 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

No worse than most of the adults that are allowed one in this country.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by KS_Blue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=KS_Blue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 8:27 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Fair tackle

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by TeddyBoy <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=TeddyBoy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:33 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

All influenced by the likes of Connor McGregor, Jamie Webster, Gemma Collins et al.
No thanks, leave the kids in bed stinking their rooms out all day instead.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by SnafflesBlue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=SnafflesBlue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:42 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Now do pensioners, Katie Hopkins, Nigel Farage and colostomy bags.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by adayinthelife <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=adayinthelife' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:23 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

If they have to pay tax they should get the vote

The fate of the fallen, nobody knows where I came from.
Even I have forgotten.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by bigsteefc <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=bigsteefc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:18 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Seeing as they’re not allowed to stand for parliament till they are 18 it seems a bit of a contradiction.

1=20

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Barra6 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Barra6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:25 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

But they are allowed to sign up to the armed forces

I'd say that deserves a vote.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by McConville1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=McConville1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 8:21 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Can't be in combat until they are 18

Can't even sign up at 16 without parental consent.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Barra6 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Barra6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 8:57 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

But they can sign up

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Obrima3 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Obrima3' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Evening Nigel.

Formerly obrima2

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by bigsteefc <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=bigsteefc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:31 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Arf ! Just seems a bit shit though if you’re a young kid and you all come together for a common purpose and you can’t stand for an .election

1=20

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Posted by bignev <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=bignev' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:19 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

You can’t vote for yourself Ste

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:11 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

I’d rather see 16-17 than 70-80

CHEER UP, PLUMS

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Posted by bignev <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=bignev' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:18 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

100%

The kids are alright

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:22 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

It’s a classic trope isn’t it. People get old and see the young as inferior. If we’d allowed 16 and 17 year olds to vote on that Brexit shite remain would have won. As you say, the kids are alright.

CHEER UP, PLUMS

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by SnafflesBlue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=SnafflesBlue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:26 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Agree with that. We're already in a country where diminishing numbers of working age people are struggling to support vast numbers of pensioners who only seem to whinge and make life more difficult for them, whilst being relied to vote en-masse and believe everything that gets shovelled into their brains by Facebook and GBNews.

If you don't want young people to vote because you distrust their cognitive abilities, then apply the same at the other end and remove the vote from everyone aged above 70.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by SnafflesBlue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=SnafflesBlue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:09 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Fine with it. They get taxed if they work. Why wouldn't they vote?

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Orrys <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Orrys' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:07 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Absolute bollocks.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by fat-freddy's-cat $<iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=fat-freddy\'s-cat' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on July 17, 2025, 6:56 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

I for one welcome them to our modern, vibrant democracy ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g8v33g1dgo )

shitting in Fat Freddy's shoes since 1969

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Dylan Blue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Dylan+Blue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 6:55 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

Ridiculous.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Teflon_Don <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Teflon_Don' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 18, 2025, 6:02 am, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Why?

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by santo_1878 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=santo_1878' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 6:55 pm, in reply to "16-17 year olds voting"

My immediate thought was it was a plan to help keep reform away from downing street.

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by Wally Bazoom <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Wally+Bazoom' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 6:56 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Could be. Though young lads in particular seem to be more hard right than anyone.

wow&cam&bonsai&ferret

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by tired <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=tired' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 8:29 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

depends on their algorithm

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 7:10 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

Not what I see and hear

CHEER UP, PLUMS

Re: 16-17 year olds voting

Posted by santo_1878 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=santo_1878' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 17, 2025, 6:57 pm, in reply to "Re: 16-17 year olds voting"

God help us if that's the case!

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