Well they had the same team last season and we arguably had a worse one, but we still got a point against them. So this 'oh it's Arsenal, we should be glad they didn't wallop us AOTS' shit really doesn't wash.

A huge amount of performance in footie is still down to the attitude the manager and the players approach the game with. The biggest problem most of us have with Moyes is that even if he had much better players to choose from we all know the approach and attitude to these games wouldn't change.