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William Southcomb Lloyd Webber

Posted by Barry Jernigan on 10/8/2021, 5:00 pm

Wondering if the Lloyd Webber musical family have Devon ancestry? My grandmother, Marion Alice (Southcombe) Valerio, born in Morris, Grundy County, Illinois. Her great-grandfather, William Southcomb, emigrated to America with his brother, Anthony, in 1852. He settled in Kendall County, Illinois and raised his family there. Pretty sure their parents were William Southcomb and Jane Parkin of High Bray.

Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber

Posted by Paul Scott on 12/8/2021, 10:37 pm, in reply to "William Southcomb Lloyd Webber"

Hi Barry, yes the Lloyd Webbers do have Devon ancestry! From memory I think they are descended from a Lewis Southcombe's family from Swimbridge. He was born a few miles away in Rose Ash where there are a multitude of Southcomb(e) names in the registers. The Southcomb family who dropped the 'e' were rectors of Rose Ash for over 250 years.
Another branch of this family came from the parishes of North Molton and East Buckland, which is where I think your ancestors fit in. My 3 x great grandmother was Eliza Southcombe who was from Swimbridge; she married a William Harding and they gave a number of their children, including my 2 x great grandfather William, her maiden name as their middle name. There was a really good article in one of the Devon Family Historians, I think about 4 or 5 years ago, and these are on the Members' Area.

Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber

Posted by Stuart Windsor on 14/8/2021, 6:39 am, in reply to "Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber"

Hi Barry,

As Paul says, the Southcomb Lloyd Webbers do hale from Devon. Lewis Southcombe and Elizabeth Gaydon from Swimbridge had a son called John, and his daughter Jane married Elias Webber. They lived in Jersey before returning to Pilton near Barnstaple. Their son, William Southcombe Webber was a grandfather of the composer William Southcombe Lloyd Webber (father of Andrew and Julian).

I am also pretty sure that your William was the son of William and Jane from High Bray. Before that they were in East Buckland for a couple of generations, where they moved from Rose Ash. It is likely that the connection between the two families is way back - with probably two brothers Robert (your ancestor) and George (the ancestor of the Southcombe Webbers) - they were born in the 1530s-1540s.

Best wishes,

Stuart

Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber

Posted by Barry Jernigan on 14/8/2021, 3:38 pm, in reply to "Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber"

Sounds like I need to be a bonafide member. My grandmother had a hand made pedigree of the Rose Ash line. It ended with descendants who lived in Australia and New Zealand. I cannot verify the information on it. It's just the pedigree. I'm pretty sure I have it somewhere. I do remember the rectors of Rose Ash are capitalized so their direct lineage sticks out. I don't know why my grandmother had it. I'll be glad to share it if I can find it.

Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber

Posted by Paul Scott on 13/8/2021, 2:10 pm, in reply to "Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber"

The "Elusive Southcombes of Mariansleigh" is an excellent article detailing the early records and family lines of the aforementioned family. It's in the Devon Family Historian from November 2015. Mariansleigh is a small parish close to Rose Ash where the Southcomb(e) family appear.

Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber

Posted by Barry Jernigan on 14/8/2021, 3:39 pm, in reply to "Re: William Southcomb Lloyd Webber"

I'd like to see that article. I'll make the arrangements to become a member and then check that out. Thanks so much!

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