Posted by David Murrian on 23/3/2021, 10:03 am
Have recently been checking the children of William Murrin (initally from Hatherleigh) and wife, Ann (Tavenner)(initially of Germansweek) who married 1812 at Broadwoodwidger. |
They first had 3 daughters before the next 5 of their children who were all male. It is the daughters in whom I am now interested. The first daughter was Thomasin, baptised 1812 but who died 1824 - buried Broadwoodwidger but said to be of Broadmorehead, Stowford). Next came Jane, baptised, Lifton, 1817 and finally Elizabeth, baptised Lifton 1819.
It is Elizabeth who particularly interests me and who she might have married.
There is an Elizabeth who married a William Tremeer in 1840 at Stoke Damerel, when her father is said to be William Murrin. In the 1841 Census at Bradworthy (District 4) there is a William Tremeer, 29, ag. lab. born Devon and Elizabeth Tremeer, 25, but not born Devon. In the next 3 Census years they are at Chudleigh when Elizabeth is conversely said to be born at Teigngrace, Devon (near Newton Abbot - an area to which it is apparent that some of the Murrin family had earlier moved from the Hatherleigh area though not, as far as I know, anyone immediately connected to William.
The age of Elizabeth in these Census years suggests she was born abt. 1815 but not too early to be otherwise discounted. The area around Newton Abbot is what concerns me, being some distance from the Lifton area, and especially her birthplace, all of which does not fill me with confidence.
I have however found another Elizabeth who married a William Stone at Hennock in 1833, both said to be OTP. Only indication of her age is that the words "with consent of" are crossed though, so apparently older than 21. There is no indication of the name of her father, but the witnesses are William Murrin and Jane Murrin - much better, being the known father & sister of Elizabeth. I turned again to the Census years to see if those help. Unfortunately I couldn't find the couple in 1841, but have found them in 1851 at Georges Street, St. Petrock, Exeter. They appear there as William Stone, 55, Coach Trimmer, born St. Sidwell, Devon and Elizabeth Stone, 38, born - what looks like and what is transcribed as - Tamstock, but in Devon. I do not know of a Tamstock in Devon and feel that it could be Tavistock but not written correctly. Her age is again a little early for a birth of 1819 but given the possibility of the birthplace being Tavistock and the witnesses at the marriage being, probably her father and sister, I have persuaded myself that this marriage is indeed that of Elizabeth I have been seeking, and certainly better than the alternative marriage to William Tremeer.
However, last night, I was reading a book which refers to a Tawstock in Devon, and looking again at the 1851 Census (I cannot find them in later Census years)there is a possibility that Tamstock might meant to be Tawstock (in the Barnstaple arear close to the Devon boarder with Somerset - and even further away from Lifton than Teigngrace?), but still favour the possibility of it being miswritten for Tavistock.
Would anyone who might have "better eyes" than mine (though I have enlarged the image at lot) have a look to see what they might feel about my interpretation.