I'm looking for my Great Grandfather Samuel Lock, born around 1857 in Pilton. He was the son of Samuel (b abt 1822) and Eliza (B.abt 1823) Lock. He married Elizabeth Harriett Lockyer in 1878 in Barnstaple. They moved to West Ham in Essex after their marriage and had at least 5 children, including my Grandfather Ernest. If anyone has information on Samuel and his descendants please let me know.
Re: Samuel Lock
Posted by Deborah O'Brien on 18/5/2018, 1:24 pm, in reply to "Samuel Lock"
When you say 'you're looking for' him - what information are you seeking specifically? Baptism/birth; censuses. Please let us know what you have already found so that we don't duplicate your efforts. Using the GRO indices it looks as though they had the following children in the West Ham regn. district: 1879 Samuel 1881 Elizabeth Annie 1883 Maud Elsie 1885 Gertrude Eliza 1887 William Henry 1889 Ernest 1891 Ethel Beatrice 1893 Beatrice Amelia 1894 Bertie 1898 Mabel 1903 Frederick Charles
Re: Samuel Lock
Posted by Michael Locke on 19/5/2018, 12:26 am, in reply to "Re: Samuel Lock"
Hi Deborah,
Thanks for responding.
I had better give you a bit of background - I live in Australia and my father, Norman Bertram Peter Locke was the son of Ernest Lock and grandson of Samuel and Elizabeth Lock. Ernest is actually who I am really keen to find out about.
Ernest married Ivy Evelyn Grace Finn in Bournemouth in 1916 and they had 2 boys - dad and his brother Eric John Locke. (This seems to be the first time that the "e" appears on our name). Ernest left the family home sometime around 1920 and I have been unable to find any clear reference to him since.
Ivy struggled to raise the boys with no support and they ultimately were placed in the Barnado's home and came to Australia in 1929. Dad never saw his mother again, and as far as I can find out Ivy never heard from Ernest again, although apparently she heard that he may have married again, that he may have lost a leg and that he died around 1948.
I would love to find out what happened to my grandfather Ernest and if he did have another family, who would be my second cousins.
My reason for looking for Samuel is that I am hoping that some other of his offspring's descendants may be looking at their family history and might know something about Ernest.
With regard to your response and questions, the information that I put in my original post is all I have, and has been gleaned from census records and other searches through the Find My Past website. I'm surprised at the list of Samuel's children you provided, I have only found 7 of them - Elizabeth, Maud, Gertrude, William, Ernest and Bertie. Elizabeth appeared in the 1881 census as a baby but does not appear in any subsequent ones. I have not seen any references to Samuel, Ethel, Beatrice or Fredrick in any census up until 1911. They may have all died very young.
The other interesting thing is that in all my searches none of the Lock's have a second name, but your list shows 7 of the 11 children with 2nd names.
I was't aware that the GRO has a searchable database, I've just registered and had a quick look for Ernest's death but the only one that looks like a maybe (age 59 in 1949) is Ernest Norman. The second name is a bit sus but it is my fathers name.
Cheers
Mike
Re: Samuel Lock
Posted by Judith on 20/5/2018, 10:48 am, in reply to "Re: Samuel Lock"
Have you searched national archives site? There is an Ernest Locke who was in the R.A.F. possible reference to disablement award, might be useful, you would have to order a copy.
Re: Samuel Lock
Posted by Deborah O'Brien on 19/5/2018, 2:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Samuel Lock"
Have you obtained the 1889 birth certificate and the 1949 death certificates and compared the birth dates? The other thing to try is searching the 1939 register which is available on FindMyPast and Ancestry.
Re: Samuel Lock
Posted by Michael Locke on 23/5/2018, 11:03 am, in reply to "Re: Samuel Lock"
Ok, I have ordered the 2 certificates, we will see what they reveal. I have been through the 1939 register, there are a couple of Ernest's there but not enough info to make any real judgement. I am also hoping to find out if there are any descendants of Samuel and Elizabeth still in the Barnstaple area as my wife and I will be heading to the UK next Tuesday 29th. We will be staying one night in the Barnstaple area and would like to catch up with any distant relatives if there are any about.
Re: Samuel Lock
Posted by Deborah O'Brien on 24/5/2018, 7:37 am, in reply to "Re: Samuel Lock"
Using the information from the certificates - especially the birth certificate - you can enter the birth date in the 1939 search which may narrow down the results. (Assuming he kept his true birthdate).
