I have gone off piste a bit with Emily, and to my surprise have found that her father came from Thornbury, where we used to live, and where we have done lots of research! I have a cd which covers the census' 1851 so will look her father up, as the name rang bells with me, so might be sideways on one of our trees!!! Looking at 1881 the children at home with their father look like the youngest, and as he is 56, there should be more. Will pursue, after a cup of coffee.