This deserves it's own thread..
Posted by MaTi on May 4, 2012, 15:07:11
I won't post this again. I should have figured they would try to bury this. |
Think before you invest your time and money into this man and what he calls dog training.
For those of you like myself who wonder what is the truth..and what this man is capable of...
"HI EVERYONE! PART 1
Posted on March 7, 2008 at 04:54:29 PM
"Well, hello everyone! Sorry I haven't responded sooner. I started a big long response with lots of history--but, I decided to keep it relatively short. I have been Donovan's biggest supporter--well, actually the Donovan Pinscher, not so much the person Donovan. I absolutely love my dog and to suggest that I would enter a trial thinking that he was dangerous supposes that I am a cold person, totally devoid of any kind of rational thinking. My dog is not a vehicle for me to brag on the internet talking about how great I am. I guess you who think that I would use a dog that I have raised since he was 8 weeks old don't really have something wrong with their "thinking". We wouldn't think twice about pulling out of the sport of SchH if I thought there was any chance that he couldn't do it. He would retire and live out the remainder of his life as part of our family--continuing his life as it has been right from the beginning--loved, played with, exercised and trained. I guess Donovan doesn't understand this.
Yes, we pick our trials--we do not want to title in a club trial--we pick the big events not hiding from anyone. We titled for SchH I at the NW regional--we titled for SchH II in December in Phoenix and we were going to compete in the Phoenix SW Regional--one of the biggest publisized events in Schutzhund. Does that sound like I'm trying to hide? By the way, Foxx received 84% in protection--once he took 2 commands to out, one time he was slow to out, the next time he had 3 commands to out--we were seconds from being DQd--we lost huge points for this. Since Donovan doesn't know too much about SchH--that doesn't mean my dog was out of control and aggressive. That means we had some issues that needed to be worked on.
This brings me to the reason we had Donovan come out to Phoenix. He himself says that he wouldn't do anything to sabotage our training. We met Donovan 3 times--once in NJ during the PSA trial--we were up there helping anyway we could. Donovan of course had some problems--blaming everyone except himself. He would sit around feeling sorry for himself, while we cleaned the barns and kennel for him mowed his lawn, bought him stuff.
We arrived at night and that very first night Donovan told us to bring Foxx into his living room. We did--there were many people sitting around talking etc. Foxx came in and sat down and just looked around--without warning, Donovan attacks him over a coffee table. Why he did this--I'm not sure.
Donovan also liked to agitate Foxx in his crate--Foxx broke out of his crate a couple of times and chased him and he thought this was fantastic. Why he would do this to a one-year-old dog, I'm not sure. People told us that Donovan was expecting Foxx to be returned by us--what a cool guy!
Anyway, people who don't know Donovan he talks about everyone without exception. All depends who he's talking to at the time. He has no respect for anyone--for those of you that think he doesn't talk about you behind your back--think again--no one is spared.
Donovan really thinks that he invented dog training--honest. This is about as nasty as I'm going to get I will just state truthful facts for the rest of the post.
During his SchH II we saw some holes in our training. Every SchH person wants to work for a better hold and bark so my husband asked Donovan on the phone if he had any ideas. He said that we should agitate him in his crate until he was "really crazy" then open the door and let him attack the helper--we said absolutely not that we did not want Foxx getting out of the van thinking about biting the first person he sees. So what does Donovan do the very first day he's in Phoenix? He started agitating him in the crate--Donovan is an expert at inciting aggression--have to say that about him. My husband asked him diplomatically to stop this--of course he did it anyway. I asked him twice more not so nicely to stop this, but no one tells Donovan what to do.
We have 3 crates set up in the van and in order to ride Donovan around I had to ride curled up in the back--there wasn't a latch so I couldn't let myself out since there wasn't a latch in the back and Stewart had to hobble back on his crutches to release me.
Donovan had already done his little dirty business and wouldn't stop--was it because he thought that this was good for the dog or he just hated that we ignored everything he said--who knows. All I know is that he did this.
I also believe he was also jealous of Tim Saunders--Tim came out on vacation about 2 weeks before the trial--he helped us with some aggressive SCHUTZHUND WORK. We tested the out and it was perfect--Tim also helped us with getting a faster running down in motion. Mr. Foxx is controlled--Tim helped us with knowledge to help us get a faster running down. He talked to me first and we all agreed on what we were going to do--and it worked. I believe that Donovan was jealous and wanted to say that he was responsible for all our training while in reality he had very little to do with it.
For those of you who don't know this--my husband and I are huge Schutzhund supporters and we have spent the last 6 years learning from experts, traveling thousands of miles attending seminars and learning from the best. Donovan, of course, has no respect for us, especially me and I believe he decided to do what he wanted to do without a second thought to my wishes. His ego got in the way of thinking what was best for the dog--he only sees what he wants to see and I believe he was angry and wanted to prove something--didn't even think of the consequences of what he was doing--he didn't care--it's always about Donovan in Donovan's world.
So that was the first thing he did--for 5 days, he agitated the dog anytime he got out of the car until one of us ran up to stop him. When Donovan arrived suddenly a great Schutzhund helper was available to work with us. We worked with him a few times--tested the hard drive, the out, very fast escape bites and running the blinds. Donovan just stood on the side lines criticizing all the dogs and handlers--it was very humiliating. Lots of people talked to him about Foxx--of course he said that he had much better stuff than Foxx and went into talking about how great he was--all the championships he's won and how many years he's been in Schutzhund. Soon everyone was avoiding him and most times he wasstanding alone--these were real Schuzhund people who weren't fooled by his bs. When did he last title in Schutzhund? Who has he coached? According to him, he's had relatives of every famous Schutzhund dog that ever lived."
Re(1): HI EVERYONE! PART 2
Posted on March 7, 2008 at 04:55:54 PM
"So Thursday was draw night. I drew tracking the very next morning--we were at the tracking field at 6:30 am Friday morning. We still hadn't worked the control in the back transport and as crazy as Donovan was acting I thought he would be able to take a grip and slip. That's all--grip/slip--not stick hits, no drives, not out, nothing but grip/slip. Donovan agreed grudgingly. So we got to the park around 11:30 pm Thursday night--agreed on grip/slip only and away we go. For those of you that don't have a plan when you go on the field, that's up to you, but we always have a plan that way nothing goes wrong. Well it did. We did the back transport--Donovan caught Foxx, drove him very hard, hit him very, very hard, then suddenly went down to the ground barking and growling. He took large handfuls of fur and skin and twisted, he was punching Foxx also. I couldn't believe it. I was powerless to stop this--had no idea what to do. Donovan froze and I outed Foxx--I ran up to get him but Donovan popped the sleeve and had an almost identical repeat of the first incident. When he froze, I could only think to not out Foxx--I said "I'm not outing him" and turned away. Donovan slipped the sleeve. All this took place around midnight before tracking the next morning at 6:30 am. We got home after midnight. I walked around the park with Foxx for a while--when I got back Donovan said "Wow, he really gotten stronga, you know what I'm sayin" and "I really didn't think he had it in him." I just got in the van crying because of what this man with "30 years experience in Schutzhund" did to us without any consideration for us, all our years of training, all the money we spent learning about Schutzhund, and he certainly had no regard for the well-being of our dog.
We did not want a Tiger--he wound up with a guard company--probably dead now. Why couldn't the great man himself train and control Tiger? Donovan was feeling left out--and it was only because of all the bizaree things he wanted to do. Talking about pain stimulation in obedience then "it's almost like bite work, ya know what I'm saying". What a guy--he was feeling ignored so he had to do something to get some attention.
Donovan agitated Foxx when he got out at the tracking field and after just 6 hours before he had Foxx fighting for his life. This is not Schutzhund training. Foxx got out of the van and a judge happened to be walking by--Foxx barked aggressively at him. I was so horrified that I put Foxx back in the van went to the tracking judge and pulled. When asked the reason we said Foxx was sick. In the meantime, Stewart apologized to the judge and said that we had done some training that we shouldn't have done--what an understatement.
Ultimately, it's my fault--I underestimated this man's sanity. I did not keep my dog safe from this maniac--that's what Donovan is--a maniac. I have been his biggest defender, but as I said--it's was about the dogs, not the man. Not going to say anymore--Donovan has a habit of running at the mouth about anything he's heard. We were very careful over the years not to tell him anything we didn't want made public. I'm sorry that this came out--I avoided posting for weeks and only after Donovan started posting on the Longwood's board did I respond. I also told him to stop it but you see what happened.
I've been kind here so don't let poor Donovan play the martyr--he blames everyone else in the world--it's never his fault. I say he did civil work. I am not an exaggerators and I don't lie--this is exactly what happened. Sure we didn't answer his calls or messages--our involvement with the DP is over for good. Our next puppy will be a gsd. I hope that everyone realizes that I couldn't make up a story like this if I tried."