Re: HOLY CRAP! "THANKS GUYS".!!
Posted by Roger on May 4, 2012, 15:35:40, in reply to "HOLY CRAP! "THANKS GUYS".!!"
Man, tried to come back to this board and I see why I left it. I'm happy for your success, but man it sure is grating to hear this attempt at reverse psychology, very elementary. |
Wow. I just took the time to read some of the posts down below. Dom, I hope you are not threatening Mati with physical violence ... not only would that be dumb but also he is my good friend..my "nephew". Best stop by Texas on your way if so, it will be Old Men Gone Wild in Texas. lol If I read it wrong, I apologize, but Mati is MY friend and fellow musico, I won't stand for violence towards him and I bet neither will about a thousand tough as nails Islanders for that matter. It's going to get you in major trouble threatening someone on a public board. Really, I think y'all best end this, and let people come back to this board before it's all about promoting the DP (which I think are good dogs for someone that want one...who cares?) and constant fighting. ARen't we all too old for this shit? And this is coming from someone that used to get into it the very same way and sees the absolute futility in acting like children. It accomplishes nothing. We were friends, let's keep it that way. I think we have all seen enough and everyone needs to eat lunch and come back with the idea of being polite to everyone else, and instead of promoting dogs, let's just look at them. Negative critique is coming from the shameless promotion. Hurt feelings and then War and then your downfall is coming from your reaction to other's natural aversion to shameless promotion and possible exageration. I don't know about anything you might have exagerrated about or your training methods, but the thing that made me start thinking there is something to what Mati says (aside from people I know saying he knows his craft to a high degree) was this; you saying you have had catch dog champs. I remember the one that won the quick catch comp, and bro, that doesn't make it a champion catch dog in my book, or the people that taught me that craft, which I am an expert and was a judge at it. That whole organization was fraudulent and ruined it for the rest of us. So, if you will embellish there either out of bravado or ignorance, I had to start wondering about the other stuff, and I don't want to wonder. I know you're proud of DPs and have every right to be. But you are publically ruining yourself, no matter the title to the subject of this post, and I hate to see it.
Also, I know about good musicians (which Mati is incredibly good), something you might not know. A good musician doesn't usually exagerate when he's talking about another craft he is involved in. When you spend that much time getting excellent on an instrument it teaches the habit of leaving the bullshit behind in your other activities; it takes more dedication than any friggin dog anything and teaches honesty above EVERYTHING. But dogs don't talk back or write their Congressman, so there is NO end of bullshit in the dog world by others. I hope that makes sense. We've had some interesting conversations in the past and I've never before had a reason to question your sanity or friendship, I hate to see you ruin it. And for God's sake, please ask Jennifer to keep the extreme foulness off of the board, she has done more damage to you by far than Mati ever has, and Mati wasn't even trying to. Argue if you must about training (the never ending arguments among trainers) but for God's sake that foul of thought or word has no place in ...in anywhere. Seems it started off by questioning your training and escalated to this nonsense. End it. It's easy. If business is so good, why even get on the board to promote it? On a perfect board I wish people wouuld just put pics and vids up without the bragging or promotion and if someone had a problem with the training they could say it without the retribution, and I everyone could agree to disagree and then move on. There would be more vids than DPs and the Presa (nice Presas!)... and just as a barometer for how far you have gotten out there, Dom, lol, anyone that can piss Eric off enough to say anything negative has stepped way out of bounds... I think everyone has tried to wait this out so we could have our board back without having to see Peyton Place (that's an old soap for you whippers). When will that happen?