Tom Riche and Lucero's Jaws of Working Class K-9
For HOGBENDER and OTHERS...
Posted by DONOVAN on May 1, 2012, 19:41:51
I just wanna say I "UNDERSTAND" where you are coming from. I would like to share a short story of a young man with a 20 thousand dollar GSD who PLACED at the "BUNDESSEIGER PREFUNG" scoring a 97 in protection..and having several 100's in his book...NEVER less that a 96...and over 20 times "SCH" 111...well...I was well known around my neighborhood as the DOG-KID...having already trained a schutzhund 111 and titling several others before I was 15....and there was this local BUM...who always sat on the street corner with his 40 little black mutt.... WELL....One day I was "bragging" to him all about my new dogs many accomplishments...when he said to me..."BOY"...That dog wont bite $HIT!...I , always eager to TEST these things for REAL....made a DEAL with him that I would give him 100 bucks to "take" a bite from my dog....he laughed and agreed. I attempted to "sick" the dog on him...The guy stayed calm...stared at the dog from his old broken down lawn chair....and made a sudden move and shook his chair ....MY DOG SPOOKED OUT!...and ran all the way back to my house!......THEN...he told his little "mutt" to "GET ME" and the dog attacked me!...I barely got away!....I had to dump a garbage can full of trash over the dog...and the dog was still coming!...he called the dog off....and we both laughed.......I gave him his $100...and I LEARNED A BIG LESSON!....BUMS...spend a LOT of time with the dog...they may not know the "latest" techniques...or be formally trained in any way....but they get a FEEL for dogs....They LIVE with them!....CONSTANTLY!.....I don't underestimate anyone anymore.....I have studied under the BEST trainers in the world..(recognized)...and some of the LEAST recognized as well.....and I have learned EQUALLY from both fields of thought......NOW...I am CAREFULL about giving "ADVICE"...measure twice/cut once.....quick-impulsive "assessments" and "snap judgments" are for amateur's...I may pretty much KNOW what is going on right away....BUT...I keep my mouth shut....and make SURE...before I end up the way I did when I was 15 on the corner .....shut down by a local "BUM"..... |
Posted by MaTi on May 1, 2012, 20:40:02, in reply to "For HOGBENDER and OTHERS..."
Hypocrite is, as hypocrite does. |
"I don't underestimate anyone anymore.....I have studied under the BEST trainers in the world..(recognized)...and some of the LEAST recognized as well.....and I have learned EQUALLY from both fields of thought......NOW...I am CAREFULL about giving "ADVICE"...measure twice/cut once.....quick-impulsive "assessments" and "snap judgments" are for amateur's."
Truth is 30 yrs later from when your pops walked you through Schutzhund ...and you here and now give yourself all the credit...after you couldn't control a real dog at the end of your leash, and it hospitalized the poor guy you don't give him any credit..still trying to breed the same dog that tore up your pops that you couldn't handle..selling dogs to amateur's because your peers ignore you..talking shit about every other breed..exaggerating to to point of disbelief...
You still conduct yourself as an amateur.
I'm not taking cheap shots, guessing, or name calling like you.
These are the facts.
You continue to bash anyone that questions your means.
If any of the words you wrote are true, feel free to address any of the "HUNDREDS" lmao of objective, direct and legitimate TRAINING/BREEDING/ETHICS questions I've inquired with you for the last four years.
Now that would be noble and show humility.
You BOAST about showing your big balls spending money and time to come here to try to hurt somebody and their dog....
Let's see some REAL BALLS and take on your OWN fears...your FAULTS and WEAKNESSES in your dogs, training, and breeding program.
SHOW YOU ARE AS HUMAN AS THE NEXT BREEDER/TRAINER.
Dominic sorry to burst your bubble..you are NOT special. I'm writing your style how'my doin?
Now THAT takes BALLS, COURAGE, and HONESTY you haven't shown to date.
The pretending can't go on forever. Be honest with yourself. Be honest with us.
If not I will help you.
Re: SEE YOU...in November....
Posted by DONOVAN on May 1, 2012, 21:33:27, in reply to "more crap"
Re: For HOGBENDER and OTHERS...
Posted by jwv on May 1, 2012, 21:36:31, in reply to "For HOGBENDER and OTHERS..."
i bet this bum did not have a leash for his dog. |
i bet this dog did not have a 1,000 bites on a sleeve. I bet this bum had a helluva tight bond with his dog and this dog was willing to die for his owner. hmmmm old school.
i bet this bum didnt know about leerburg, treats, clickers and e collars. Just him and his dog. Just him and his dog. Just him and his dog. Now who taught me to put away every man made piece of crap tool and go old school ? and just make it about me and my dog.
Re: Thats my point......
Posted by DONOVAN on May 1, 2012, 21:52:23, in reply to "Re: For HOGBENDER and OTHERS..."
There have been TWO basic influences on me.....The TOP guys like REISER...MANTLE...BIEHLER....HASSING....RITZI....WUTZ....BELLON...and possibly...most of all, KONRAD MOST. THEN.....There are the IN-FORMAL guys....The COMMERCIAL guys...The GUARD DOG guys....I learned a LOT from these guys......and that experience where my dog " EIKO V.D. JUNGEN HANSEN" who took 13th place, I believe(if memory serves me)in the BSP..( and produced OTHER BSP competitors as well).... got run off by a common BUM...who knew more than I was ready for.....LIFE.....Continues to teach....and I...continue to LEARN.........STILL....I WONT throw out the baby with the bath water....SPORT teaches a LOT!.....I am of the "BRUCE LEE" school of thought... where NO STYLE...is the BEST STYLE..... |
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