This was the first time this dog had been agitated. Yes, I broke my double back tie rule. This Presa had plenty of fire in his belly, but zero man fighting skills. The first thing to do with a dog like this, is to get him to over commit. I get him to go after one hand, and then remove his base by shoving with my off hand. To win a fight, FIRST you must always keep your base under you, then you remove your opponent's base. You don't commit to an attack unless you know beyond a doubt, that you will cause damage, or remove his base.(preferably both)