i tried french ring many years ago..was put off by the insane politics..was not impressed by the overall 'finished' product in the sense..i saw way too many prey junkies..loose sloppy obedience..shallow bites etc..you like what you like...what can i say? we all have our preferences.. just as some don't like schutzhund..that's how life is..i've been playing in dogs for a good long while joby..there is not a whole lot i have not tried..or seen..i imported dogs from holland back before most of the internet experts even knew what "knvp" <--note the intended typo was all about...my breed of preference has always been the GSD..but i have had plenty of hands on with rotties..malinois (mostly mechalaar)..dutchies and of course some very good quality bandogges..pressure is just one of those things that will be a never ending discussion because it really cannot be quantified..what i consider weak to little pressure others consider heavy pressure..i also know pressure comes in many forms..hell..some dogs feel pressure just by having to travel in a crate for 6+ hours..
E-Dog - 2012 WPBTCA National Championships
The time when screech owls and Bandogges howl and spirits walk and ghosts break up their graves.
Act I, Scene IV of William Shakespeare's "King Henry VI"