depends on what type of work, and the drive expected, and who is doing the "manners" training..
ANY dog can be ruined for certain things by people that do not know what they are doing..
E-Dog - 2012 WPBTCA National Championships
The time when screech owls and Bandogges howl and spirits walk and ghosts break up their graves.
Act I, Scene IV of William Shakespeare's "King Henry VI"