You read far too much into what I wrote, I never ever said not to do a forced retrieve, it's simply not my method of choice, I have seen the results of poorly force trained dogs and it is not pretty, so I always recommend people throughly research it or any method before starting it.
You on the otherhand seem to preach force tracking and force retrieves. As well as electric. Again, those methods all have their place, but they are not the be all end all for every dog and handler.
There is more than one road to Rome, I prefer to let people choose the road they want to take, if they all end up in Rome, does it matter how they got there?
This part of your post really bothers me:
OH, he is brutal. OH, he ruins dogs. Yes, if it is a weak dog. Hell, someone should have thanked him so they dont waste years training a weak dog. By the way, you show up to work week, you are no rookie. You want to compete at a high level.
I snipped it for brevity. Is that how you really feel? You do realize not everyone wants to get to
that precious podium spot right? Back in the day when we went to the work weeks, it was for anyone and everyone, no matter what level their dog or they were at. There was no isolating the apparant 'cream of the crop', heaven forbid someone want to just go out and have fun with their dogs huh? And it's really ok with you that someones dog gets ruined? Thats sad. Very sad. No dog deserves to be ruined because someone else thinks it's weak. News flash for you, ANY DOG can be chased. ANY DOG.
Your comments are really a sad statement on the way the sport has deteriorated. There was a time years back when we spent almost 3 months in Canada, driving all the way across, stopping at many clubs along the way, homes and clubs were always opened up to us and people were hospitable and welcoming to any and all. Club members were all valued for their contributions, remember, while all you 'important' people are chasing the spot on the podium, it's up to us 'minions' to take care of club grounds, pick up and sometimes host judges, ensure food and drinks are available etc. It takes a village to get to the 'top' Peter, you should know that by training with Lance. No one gets to the top on their own, but if you wipe your feet on everyone along the way in your quest for that oh so important spot on the podium, you may find yourself very alone in your celebration.
I won't bother to name names of people and dogs.
I will however tell you this, his brutality was witnessed at more than one seminar, places like Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Manitoba down into Arizona etc. In fact, if memory is correct, his one seminar in Arizona was a wash by the second day, no one brought dogs out for him to work because of what went on the first day.
I am glad to hear he has changed, there was a time he was not so kind to dogs with his methods of force. And people had to work for months to overcome what he 'accomplished' in one session of his 'foolproof' forced tracking. And yes, ears were damaged, dogs were kicked repeatedly, dogs whipped in the eyes with the popper, temporarily blinded by being sticked across the bridge of their muzzle for a quick out etc. The list goes on. Whether you want to believe it or not. It happened. Ask around a little, the Carnegies saw it, as did Barry & Kathy, Dale and Susan etc etc. So hopefully that is very far in his past.
He has certainly proved himself over the years, he had great success with Dune, and then a couple other dogs, thats fantastic. I have never slighted his achievments, I just don't have the stomach for the kind of shit that went on. No points are worth that kind of crap to me. News flash, in the real world, schutzhund or any other dog sport really doesn't mean shit to anyone else, so is it really that awesome to be a big fish in a small pond?
I wish you the best. Perhaps when you are on the podium at the Worlds you will remember all the lowlife nobodies that helped make it possible for you to get there. You know, all the people that contribute to the Nationals fund etc..the ones that don't chase the podium, the same people that just want to work and title the dogs they have. Peace out..
E-Dog - 2012 WPBTCA National Championships
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