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SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE

Posted by GREG MARTIN on December 2, 2011, 3:26 pm

LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO SERVED ON THE JOHN HOWARD PAYNE DURING THE SALERNO LANDINGS.

Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE

Posted by Ron Carlson on December 5, 2011, 11:01 am, in reply to "SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE"
Message modified by board administrator December 5, 2011, 12:34 pm

Greg,

The Salerno landings took place between September 9 and September 21, 1943, I believe, or close to those dates.

Following is the list of the Armed Guard contingent aboard JOHN HOWARD PAYNE upon her return to New York City on October 15, 1943. This is very likely the same voyage during which the ship participated in the Salerno landings (for which the Armed Guard crew received a battle star). I assume you are interested in the Armed Guard crew rather than the merchant marine crew, although I can supply the latter if you need it.

I notice that the crew list includes a Lawrence William Martin, perhaps a family member of yours? He is listed as a signalman third class (SM3c), with a serial number (military ID number) of 620-88-91.

This information comes from a search of the subscription website Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com), which is more commonly used for genealogical research. However, Ancestry.com also includes databases listing the names of crew members and passengers who arrived at certain U.S. ports of entry following a foreign voyage. The records for New York are particularly extensive.

Unfortunately I have no knowledge of which of these men, if any, are still living, nor do I have contact information on any who may be alive. You might search the Social Security Death Index (https://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com) for the more unusual names to identify those who have likely died. You may also want to search an online telephone directory, such as www.whitepages.com, for more unusual names. Searching for common names will not be productive as so many individuals share those names.

Good luck.

Ron Carlson, Webmaster
Armed Guard / Merchant Marine website
www.armed-guard.com

Armed Guard crew aboard JOHN HOWARD PAYNE, departed Baltimore approx. May 6, 1943, arrived New York October 15, 1943

Salvatore Abate
Vito Fred Agueci
James Robert Allen
John Rogers Alstadt
Grant Herschelreth Anderson
Gerard John Avoglia
Wilfred Thomas Bancroft
Carroll Wentz Bankert
Albert Lawrence Barretto
David John Benneche
Joseph John Casanelli Jr.
Edward John Czarnik
Anthony D'Agostino
Donald Thomas Darone
Joseph Lawrence De Angelo
Virgil Elwood de Nyke
Frank Anthony Daleo
Milton George Freeman
Joseph Newton Gerber LT, Armed Guard commanding
officer
Jack Sydney Greenbaum LT(j.g.), Armed Guard
officer
Kenneth Adrian Kenny
Lawrence William Martin

Edward Harold Mc Collum
Collins Melten Medlin
Dominick Mule
Donald Andersen Ostrander LT(j.g.), Armed
Guard communications officer
Joseph George Peery
Jerome David Pichoff
James Alleyd Stanberry
Charles Wilbur Stricklen
Harland Edward Thompson
Aydria George Watkies

Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE

Posted by Lon Payne on May 26, 2020, 3:49 pm, in reply to "Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE"

I believe this ship was named after my Grand Uncle, John Howard Payne, a pilot who was K.I.A. over Naples in Jan. 1943. I was just thinking about him since yesterday was Memorial Day.

Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE

Posted by Ron Carlson on July 16, 2020, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE"

Lon,

JOHN HOWARD PAYNE was completed by the Kaiser Permanente Shipyard #1, Richmond, CA, on September 30, 1942, at least three months before the death of your grand uncle of the same name. See http://shipbuildinghistory.com/shipyards/emergencylarge/kperm1.htm and scroll to hull number 490.

The ship was named after John Howard Payne (June 9, 1791 – April 10, 1852), an American actor, poet, playwright, and author who had most of his theatrical career and success in London. He is today most remembered as the creator of "Home! Sweet Home!"

But personally, I like your idea better. Your grand uncle was a brave man. They all were.

Best wishes.

Ron Carlson, Webmaster
Armed Guard / Merchant Marine website
www.armed-guard.com

SS EZRA MEEKER - LAWRENCE MARTIN

Posted by GREG MARTIN on December 7, 2011, 3:46 pm, in reply to "Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE"

Thanks for the info on my dad. He also served on the Ezra Meeker after leaving the John Howard Payne. Would it be possible to get a list of the armed guard crew on that vessel? It would have likely been in late 43 or 44 when he was assigned to the Ezra Meeker.

His name was Lawrence W. Martin and was a Signal Man Third Class (SM3) His id was 6208891

Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE

Posted by GREG MARTIN on December 5, 2011, 2:54 pm, in reply to "Re: SS JOHN HOWARD PAYNE"

RON,

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! That is my dad and he is stil living after a 33 year career as a firefighter with Waterloo, Iowa.

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