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As Ralph suggested I am not going for a hyper-accurate build this time. So it seems like most of the decks should be 36008, but the flight deck should be 36079? Or something lighter for these two for scale effect? Do you have any specific suggestions for these two (and 36270) for scale effect? Or should I just get a bottle of white and add a few drops to the matching colors?
You’re welcome. As is often the case with these things, there’s never a simple answer, but it’s often easier to provide simple answers! Even though they might be over simplifying! I’m sure that there is more info out there, but I can only go by the docs I can find and my own personal experience.
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I knew you had documentation. You always do, and it is always this thorough. Which is why I knew I was missing something important! Thank you for sharing. I downloaded it. It looks like the use of non-skid has spread, and it now covers "nearly everything" these days. That said, there's also black non-skid which gets used a good deal. (The very first time I paid attention to deck coating was a visit to the JFK CV-67. It had black non-skid on the flight deck. I was still very novice, and then claimed all non-skid was black...I had seen it for myself. Then, I learned there was also gray, and the next ship I visited, sure enough, the non-skid was gray. Sigh...) So, claiming any one uniform deck color now seems erroneous. Decks are a patchwork of 26008, 36076, black, etc. depending on what is coated with what. His project being the 1980s, I suspect the use of non-skid was a little less "drastic" then, so 26008 is "generally" correct. However, the ship's flight deck would definitely be 36076. Possibly other areas as well. If high accuracy is a goal, good photos will be necessary. This being a hobby, and subject to individual whim, one is free to imagine where non-skid might have been applied, and whether black or gray, and add it wherever one pleases, if not concerned with super accuracy.
I am now recalling a thread on the subject of non-skid many many years ago, where you posted with documentation that the black "stuff" was a coating that could be applied with little-to-no deck preparation, "in a hurry," while the gray "stuff" was more permanent, and required the deck be properly prepared and the mixture more laboriously applied. That was a major contributing factor to what got used when and where. Flight decks must have the gray stuff. But, if it was suddenly decided a walkway was wanted, it could be quickly created with the black stuff. To be considered when/if choosing to "freestyle" your model's deck layout.
Thank you a ton for this great info!!
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Hi Ralph,
Yes, 36076 is for non-skid, but not just for flight decks.
Here's my reference,
http://www.resinshipyard.com/files/USN%20Non%20Skid%20deck%20paint.pdf
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FS 36076 is the color of US Navy flight deck non-skid. It is then listed as a FLIGHT deck color. FS 26008 is still the color for non-flight decks.
I thought FS 36076 did look familiar, but it has been "too long" since anyone asked what flight decks are colored. Meantime, the "reflex regurgitated response" to "what color are modern US Navy ships" is, "FS 26270 for vertical surfaces, and FS 26008 for horizontal surfaces." That is per the written specs. Hobby paints are often found as 36270 and 36008, and are certainly "close enough" in the model world.
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Could I ask your source for 36076 being the current deck gray? That contradicts what I found. I located the military performance document (MIL-PRF 24712B) from 2014--listed as still in effect--which states it is still 26008. I would love to know what you have found, please?
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Hi Jim! How's it going?
Those are the correct FS numbers. 36076 is the current deck grey.
However!! 36270 (It's actually 26270, but who's checking!) is WAAAAYYYY too dark for 1/700 scale.
I used it on my 1/96 Arliegh Burke and changed it to Tamiya Surface Primer. It looks much better.
Try Light Ghost grey and see what you think.
2 points, 1, the real paint starts fading immediately, so always looks lighter and patchy where they touch it up. And 2, the tone changes a lot in various light conditions.
Go with what looks good!!
Cheers!
Darren
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I am about to start building the AFV Club 1/700 Knox class frigate kit. My question is about the best match in acrylic paints for the haze gray and deck gray in use in the ‘80s.
From what I have from the internet (it must be true!) that haze gray is FS 36270 and that deck gray is FS 36008. The source also said that both are available in Vallejo colors, which I have had success with, but that the Vallejo deck gray looks too light. So he used Vallejo Basalt Gray.
I would appreciate any comments or suggestions about the paint colors or the kit itself.
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