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Posted by Craig Bennett on May 29, 2025, 14:06:57, in reply to "Re: ODD in MS2 Posted Posted Several Years Ago"
Measure 18 had the hull from the water line to the Main deck painted in Navy Blue 5-N. 
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Wikipedia says this about Measure 18..."A rarely used pattern almost identical to Measure 12, but with Haze Gray instead of Ocean Gray upperworks, as in the later Measure 22." Previous Message
Measure 18?? Not finding that one...
https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measures.htm
Would love to know more. Previous Message
Looking at the USS Tarbell I can't help wondering if this was an experiment that lead to making measure 18 in 1942.
Always felt that as years go by
knowledge about the era disappears unless found in photographs.Then people ask about it.It will be interesting to hear from Chris on this. Previous Message
Oh, good! There is a Modified Measure 2. I saw this picture of USS Tarbell, and compared it to the description of Measure 2, and this wasn't it. Wondered what measure it was in. Now looks like another variation of what you've described...5-L to the main deck, then 5-D for the hull. Doesn't look like any 5-O was used. So, good to know there were variatiations.
USS Tarbell, DD-142:
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0YFupCZohTFtAuY3UEnZBFK23kqTAhHn3dFCMMQAeBYq1oyrJ2758DsnhuEfbrvNml&id=100021421346688
Not the destroyer, or image, he's looking for. He wants one showing the full, correct measure, not modified. Still, you've solved a mystery for me, thank you. Previous Message
3 Flushdeck destroyers USS McCormick,Overton,and Rueben James wore in the Spring and Summer 1941
a modified Measure 2 scheme.Using the assigned colors early 1941 5-L light gray from the top of the mast to the main deck. On the hull from the bow to stern had 2 colors early 1941 5-O Ocean gray to half down it to 5-D Dark Gray to the water line.
There is a extension of 5-O Ocean Gray on the conning tower,the 1st 2 smoke stacks,and lifeboat davitts .Try Navsource.org. HTH. Previous Message
Gents, I’ve searched my saved pictures and queried Rick and Jeff without luck. One of the posters from a few years back (not found in the site archives) posted the best picture of an escort modified 1,200-ton flush decker in a graded system in what we believe was running trials out of the NYNY mid 1941. Level, port bow view of the entire ship. Anyone remember or save it? Inquiring minds want to know.
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