With the 27 November 1941 notification that war could happen anytime soon, the PacFlt was getting ready to "potentially" move the fleet to protect the US Forces in the Philippines. I can readily believe that the next week prior to the attack saw meetings and VERBAL approvals to do things like paint the battle fleet (a very LOW PRIORITY DECISION that could be made and directed in minutes). I'm not sure if those directions weren't to skip 5-S and go to 5-N.
In mid-November 1941, the destroyer USS FLUSSER from DesDiv 9, painted with 5-S in September-October 1941 during an overhaul on the West Coast, was directed (via speed-o-gram) on 21 November 1941 to be repainted with 5-N to allow for evaluation of the paint for scheme Ms 11 (rev with 5-N). She was on exercises until returning to PH on 26 November and departed on 5 December 1941 with the USS LEXINGTON Task Force. Is there textual proof that the battle fleet was directed to repaint with Ms 11 the week prior to the attack, none has surfaced. But, verbal orders when PacFlt and PHNY were located in the same place, is quite possible. There was time prior to the attack for USS FLUSSER painted in Ms 11 with 5-N to be observed and blessed as the scheme/paint to be used by the Fleet. Further, the fact that a directive for PacFlt ships to paint in Ms 11 (5-N) was IN coordination LIKELY at the time of the attack and issued on 16 December 1941, points to the decision had been made already. Which battleships, if any actually started the repainting process, I can't say. Some photos point to "lighter" paint used on parts of USS ARIZONA's wreck. But, proof that it is 5-D, 5-S, 5-N, or fire damage, as I say ISN'T possible from grayscale images.
My interest in camo paint during 1941, has been focused on the USN destroyers. Photography is rare during this period. But I have come across some photos of Pacific Destroyers painted in the summer and fall 1941 experimental schemes. Further, the specific memo DIRECTING USS FLUSSER to be repainted AT PHNY from 5-S to 5-N was very eyeopening to me about the direction of Pacific Fleet Camo was or had been decided to be.
As for painting your model of USS ARIZONA, do as you please.
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Hi Chris,
This is a fun subject, simply due to the ignoring of the "blue crew" to one specific statement contained within one of their primary "sources" of their argument. You can see this here:
http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/S19-7/15-CN-41.html
The specific statement they choose to ignore is contained in paragraph 9 of this document. It states as follows:
"Pending receipt of comprehensive instructions from the Bureau of Ships, no change is contemplated in the present directive providing for the general application of Measure 1 to ships in the U. S. Pacific Fleet. However, inasmuch as the manufacture of Formula 5-D has been discontinued, painting will of necessity be limited to touching up with available supplies of this paint, until general issue of the new formulas, 5-S, 5-0 and 5-H has been initiated. Ships having exhausted supplies of formula 5-D, will requisition sufficient Formula 5-S, to apply Measure 1A of paragraph 2 above, and will report application of this measure to Type Commanders. For the present, paint will not be applied to the wood decks of ships other than those designated to carry out measures outlined in reference (f ). General instructions for painting all vessels in this Fleet will be promulgated in the near future."
Since this directive is signed by H.E. Kimmel (CINCPAC), it is an order NOT to repaint into a proposed measure, and Measure 1 NEVER stated (or proposed) to use 5-S in place of 5-D. Measure 1A was the use of 5-S on ALL vertical surfaces, which means that AZ's fighting top would not be painted in 5-L.
AZ's "new" color was just a poor job of research to cover a model maker's poor research...
Jon
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