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Two things to remeber.

Posted by Doug on February 18, 2021, 11:39:08, in reply to "Consider Nimitz and King"

1. War plans are statements of general aims and objectives. The details of how to achieve those objectives are up to the commanders in the field.

2. War Plan Orange went into the waste basket with Pear Harbor. Orange 5 assumed that the Pacific fleet was intact. With Pearl Harbor, there was no Pacific fleet. A new plan was needed.

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Were they great admirals or just following a blueprint in the Pacific that the contributors to War Plan Orange and The General Board gave them?

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Agents of Innovation: The General Board and the Design of the Fleet That Defeated the Japanese Navy by John T Kuehn

I had no idea the role The General Board played until I read the book. How The Board recommended ship design and Navy priorities due to the Washington Naval Treaty’s non-fortification clause. A clause specifically aimed at keeping the US Fleet out of the Western Pacific in time of war. All done during a time when the Navy had little money to work with. It blew apart the thought that the General Board was place for elderly admirals to go to await retirement. They shaped what is our Navy today.

The other great book is Warship Builders : An industrial history of US Naval Shipbuilding, 1922-1945 by Thomas Heinrich. This book is another eye opener and page turner. How fleets were built, yard capabilities, costs of ships and their intended national missions. Excellent!

I have read of the US industrial mobilization beginning 1938-1940 only to have these two books explode a lot misconceptions about it. Planning of the massive US fleet that would fight on two oceans began way before 1938.

If you are USNI member they are half the price of Amazon or request them at your library.

Next War Plan Orange by Edward S Miller

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[quote] 1. War plans are statements of general aims and objectives. The details of how to achieve those objectives are up to the commanders in the field. 2. War Plan Orange went into the waste basket with Pear Harbor. Orange 5 assumed that the Pacific fleet was intact. With Pearl Harbor, there was no Pacific fleet. A new plan was needed. [quote] Were they great admirals or just following a blueprint in the Pacific that the contributors to War Plan Orange and The General Board gave them? [quote] Agents of Innovation: The General Board and the Design of the Fleet That Defeated the Japanese Navy by John T Kuehn I had no idea the role The General Board played until I read the book. How The Board recommended ship design and Navy priorities due to the Washington Naval Treaty’s non-fortification clause. A clause specifically aimed at keeping the US Fleet out of the Western Pacific in time of war. All done during a time when the Navy had little money to work with. It blew apart the thought that the General Board was place for elderly admirals to go to await retirement. They shaped what is our Navy today. The other great book is Warship Builders : An industrial history of US Naval Shipbuilding, 1922-1945 by Thomas Heinrich. This book is another eye opener and page turner. How fleets were built, yard capabilities, costs of ships and their intended national missions. Excellent! I have read of the US industrial mobilization beginning 1938-1940 only to have these two books explode a lot misconceptions about it. Planning of the massive US fleet that would fight on two oceans began way before 1938. If you are USNI member they are half the price of Amazon or request them at your library. Next War Plan Orange by Edward S Miller[/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

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