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Posted by Mario (Moe) on November 10, 2020, 20:33:12, in reply to "Tom’s Hull"
Ralph, 1st, your knowledge of my First Carriers I ever built is Completely MEMORIZING!! 
. You must have gone completely Nuts trying to make the "Super" HORNET ( Wait are we talking about Planes NOW!!
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Bill, I believe you...I Did take a look at 'Tom's Model...' and I must agree, from Just the pix...That upper half of HORNET does look good!!
Gentlemen..Again, thank you for your input. If I were to build my favorite WWII USN carriers in the future....I Know who to Ask!!
M. Mares
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Let set the record straight Tom’s hull is excellent you just have to build out the 5”38 platforms with the Tamiya gun decks so the Trumpeter flight deck does not mask them.
Personally my thoughts are so you put your Super Hornet next to Trumpeter’s Yorktown and Enterprise and you have a sore thumb sticking out. I will stick with my Trumpeter hull which is close enough to Yorktown and Enterprise. Previous Message
Anyone looking to do a full hull Yorktown or Hornet in 1/700 scale these days finds no good OOB choices. The Tamiya offerings are all waterline only. The new Trumpeter Yorktown is waterline only. The older Trumpeter Hornet has a full hull (and waterline hull) option that is very poorly executed. Only the new Academy Enterprise offers a satisfactory full hull option.
Thus all the discussion that has come up here about how to try achieve good results anyway. None of them will be OOB for a full hull model. All will be "advanced modeling"/major surgery projects, especially for Hornet, since the entire kit hull is not a good foundation/starting point for any such project.
One possibility not yet mentioned in this thread would be using an Academy lower hull mated to "somebody's" upper hull. No idea how that would go. Now you end up trying to figure out which upper hull to use. For Yorktown, the kit's upper is okay, so that is a straightforward attempt. But for Hornet, you can try it with the Tom's hull, but as Bill has noted, then you go wrestling with the flight deck, and "on and on."
To get a good full hull Hornet, you then need the Hornet kit itself, an Academy Enterprise lower hull, a Tom's upper, and lots of model skills. Any wonder then why Tim stated he did not have a lot of money...? Also, any wonder why several folks have said to just go ahead and build either the Tamiya kit, or the Trumpeter "as is," "warts and all?" Only the individual can answer how far they want to go with this dilemma, but the options start with "live with the kit flaws," and go to "I Frankensteined about 3 kits and a dozen different aftermarket products together, and now I have "the ultimate Hornet!" Only cost me an arm and a leg, but I am satisfied.
No, you did not confuse me too much. (Just enough...) Puzzled me some, but your answer here resolves that. Thank you. Previous Message
that is what I was looking for in an answer!
I always like building my ships with the lower hull with rudders & screws...I'm just one of those people that like a Complete Ship.
For me, making a diorama, I have in my JMSDF ships that I have built, with a 'detachable' lower hull, so if the day comes......Might happen soon....I Could display the ship in waterline.
But, as most people on this thread....says that Tom's Modelworks HORNET upper hull "looks" correct in shape and scale.
I guess in my confusing question to all, Not my intention at all, is simply get 'Tom's' hull, and place Trumpeter lower hull for a 'complete model' that I could detach (not glue down, but support) to make a diorama. BUT!! If the lower hull looks are not appropriate, then I Will not use the Trumpeter lower to Tom's upper.
Thanks for the clarification, Ralph, I hope I didn't confuse you Too much about my stepping into this thread.
M. Mares
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Not certain I understand your question, Mario, since the whole point of getting a Tom's hull is to replace the poorly done Trumpeter hull. Fitting the poorly done Trumpeter lower hull to the new Tom's upper then totally defeats the purpose...you are essentially putting back what you sought to correct/replace in the first place. So, the question seems odd.
If you meant using the Trumpeter lower hull on the Tamiya upper, it is still an odd question. The Trumpeter Hornet kit's hull--upper and lower--are "notoriously" horribly shaped. Far too blunt, and the lower hull is missing the bulbous forefoot. It is considered so badly done that Tom's released an entirely new upper hull to correct it.
So...no...you "can't" (don't really want to) use the Trumpeter lower hull for anything... (If you see what I mean.) It is the object you are trying to avoid with all this aftermarket stuff in the first place. Additionally, since the Tamiya kit is under scale, the Trumpeter lower hull will not fit the Tamiya kit; it will be too large. Previous Message
since there are questions/answers about the Tom's HORNET kit, it is waterline, but does Trumpeter have a Lower Hull and can you use Trumpeter hull??
Thanks for your time.
M. Mares Previous Message
i was going to get a Tamiya USS HORNET in 1:700 off of Facebook's Market Place for $15 ... but - I backed out of the deal. I decided to get a Hasegawa F-9F off Amazon, and decals for it off Ebay...
But, f I ever decide to get the HORNET, could I have it built NOT as the Dolittle Raid HORNET ... Could I have it built as the Midway HORNET?
How was she armed during that battle?
Tim
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