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Re: HMS Vanguard: Turrets NOT from Courageous and Glorious
so new turrets, new mounts, in fact complete new system, new ammo stocks, FORGET IT! Vanguard was a "quick fix" to a perceived capability gap, and the USN 16INCH was arguably not as good a gun as the RN15INCH!
There were probably sufficient spare (9) 16"/45s surplus in the USN to equip Vanguard with "Turrets 161, 162 and 163," not needed for the Washington and South Dakota class.
That would have been an interesting, powerful fit. After all, the Brits were quite fond of light cruiser Delhi , refitted with USN 5"/38s and Mk 37 FC.
(14 Sverdlovs were completed, of 30 planned)
Why was Vanguard obsolete when there were potentially 20-30 Soviet Sverdolf ready to pounce on Allied merchant ships in the Atlantic 1946-1960?
One of the main reasons why Vanguard was built when she was built was the fact that gun mountings took as long to manufacture as the hull of the ship. There were no other 'spare' 15" gun mountings available to fit the build timeline. One ship was wanted and by the time she was ready she was obsolete.
Would it have been practicable to build a Vanguard around the turrets of an R-class as the latter was scrapped?
I don't know that the quad turret problems were ever solved. In 1945 the British Pacific Fleet had problems with them in shelling the Japanese Home Islands, according to something I read some years ago.
The KGV were extremely heavy in armor ships. The 14" guns were good enough for the mission. Once the bugs were worked out of the quad-14" turret the ships were extremely good. Indeed, it seems they were better high speed battleships than the North Carolina class that had a vibration issue.
Both the turret sets from Courageous and Glorious had to be modified to limit the possible flash issue if there had been hit on Vanguard .
Personally I though the Brits were smart with Vanguard . For minimal effort they made a KGV evolved ship with fair armor protection and was fast. Pity she was superfluous to the war effort.
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