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On Dec 3rd, 2013 Daniel Tan Asked:
8:17am
Daniel E. C. Tan
Hi Steven,
When is the comet supposed to hit Yellowstone according to Renos ? I cannot seem to find a date on their website.
The date has come and gone Daniel. Renos has set dates for an ultimate END TIME event bringing the ultimate destruction to the USA, and then following the rest of the world on no less than 3 occasions thus far.
From his first claim as "THE CHOSEN VESSEL" he prophecied the RETURN OF DAVID KORESH to occur during an 18 month period between 1995 to 1997. While he had the skepticism of many of his brethren, he had the undivided attention of all of them until that event failed to come to pass. He fell silent for a while after.
Around 1997, a "Branch Davidian" groupie, a dangerous individual I have been told, who may have in the past have been guilty of mail bombings and similar activity...again, "ALLEGATIONS"...but worthy of note, a woman with an eye tattooed on her forehead calling herself "Shekinah" was reported to have been taken as a wife by Renos.
IT was She who visited Renos in Prison and penned his words to paper for the first incarnation of the works "The Seven Seals: Books I and II" and the original website "SevenSeals.com".
Those works were Renos' first public proclamations that a KILLER COMET was coming to destroy the earth. The works "Seven Seals Books I & II" promoted that the WACO Event FULFILLED THE PROPHECY of "The Lamb-Like Beast (USA/religio-political system) recieving a Deadly wound to its head (Rev 13)" and stated that the HEAD OF THE BEAST having it's deadly wound healed had occured in certain events setting in place a timeline prophecy of "X" amount of days...I think it was 1280 days, in any event...the work and website and doctrine of Renos in that timeframe promoted David Koresh to return one one of two timelines between 2000 and 2001.
Again, his prophecies failed to come to pass. Renos fell silent again, and by many reports into a depression, and there was report that for a time he abandoned all connection to any affiliated to the sevenseals site, and for a while his relations with the woman calling herself "Shekinah" were also reported to be severed.
The website "Sevenseals.com" was taken down after the failed timeline came and went.
In 2004 another "SEVENSEALS.COM" website popped up. There was one on the site calling themselves "THE CHOSEN VESSEL" referring to the past doctrine and speaking in same language as the old site. Turned out it was the woman "Shekinah" and at the time, Renos had nothing to do with her efforts and had no part of such.
She continued her efforts and eventually as Renos' release date from prison neared close to 2007/2008 her and Renos resumed relations and in 2009 the same "sevenseals.com" site reactivated around 2004 prior, began promoted a THIRD DATED PROPHECY, this time for a COMET "Wormwood" to strike Yellowstone National Park and activate a Volcano which would destroy the USA and the ash cloud blot out the SUN worldwide...the date was set for DECEMBER 21st, 2012, co-inciding many other end time conspiracies set on the same date.
In 2010, I contacted Wendi and several others from the Mt. Carmel DB telling them the Lord had instructed me to prophecy that Renos' prophecy was going to fail, and that he would start publicly changing his doctrine and changing his timelines for one last and 4th INCARNATION of his activity promoting himself as "THE CHOSEN VESSEL" and that he would date set one more time, and when that timeframe comes and goes, for a 4th failed prophecied timeline...he would finally abandon all efforts with the doctrine he had been promoting since 1993/1994.
I don't know if it had anything to do with it, but during 2010/2011 in one of many public arguments with the Ron Cole camp, there were several, including Wendi who were bashing Renos, publishing a letter written by Catherine Matteson years ago which Catherine spoke against Renos and his claims, noting many of his brethren, most of them, did not embrace or support his position.
In such efforts, the one calling himself and posting on the Mt. Carmel DB for years as "Baruch Koresh" became greatly riled up...he had vehemently re-posted the dated prophecy of Renos over and over for years for utter destruction by a Comet (Wormwood) and once again he responded to Catherine's letter being posted and the bashing against Renos by warnings of damnation and the coming comet and destruction forecast for the year 2012. Actually it comes back to me now...the prophecy of the Sevenseals.com site in those years, promoted that in March of 2012, people all over the world (the 144,000...followers of Renos that were supposed to be in place by March 2012) would board airplanes world wide taking no more than a suitcase or two and all meet in an undisclosed location in Asia. The Comet would hit sometime between March 2012 and August 2012, striking Yellowstone and activating the worlds largest volcano, whose lava would engulf the entire USA, then North America, whose ash clouds would blot out the sun worldwide and turn the moon to blood, and this same event would release the 200,000,000 LOCUST ARMY of Revelations 6th seal and Joel chapter 2 (army of of locusts with face of men, hair of women, body of horse and sting of locust that had power to sting men for 6 months) and this army would march across the world in the name of Koresh, until December 21st, 2012 when David Koresh was again by the Hidden Manna group prophecied to Finally Return. Thats how the prophecy really went for several years between 2007 to early 2011.
Anyway, during the timeframe the letter by Catherine was posted, and Baruch responed with his warnings of lava from the Yellowstone volcano turning the usa into a LAKE OF FIRE...several made fun of Baruch, including Wendi and a couple regulars, in such both Wendi and Ron Cole made fun of the notion that the world was going to be destroyed or hit by a killer comet.
At that point, I stepped in and defended Baruch. The fact is, while I did not agree with the timelines that Baruch and Renos had been promoting...Wendi and Ron Cole's mockery of the "ANY COMET" hitting the earth, was improper, and in truth, I defended scripture moreso than Baruch, and publicly posted that Both Wendi and Ron were via thier mockery of Baruch, illustrating thier ignorance of the Scriptures and I pointed out that while Baruch and Renos were closer to the truth in their promotions...that their promotions of a "A COMET" coming was not accurate either, for SCRIPTURE in Revelation prophcies AT LEAST TWO COMETS are coming to strike the earth, one of which will destroy 1/3 of all life on this planets oceans, another 1/3 of all HUMAN LIFE on the planet!"
I Have photo copies of the posts from that Mt. Carmel thread with these posts in my archives, but the reason I note it, is that the event occurred PRIOR to a timeframe later when Renos' Doctrine changed AGAIN, (as told it would in the fall of 2010), and in this New Incarnation, No longer was a comet being forecast to hit Yellowstone at all! Rather TWO COMETS were being promoted to strike the USA during the year 2014, and in such, at first only ONE DESTINATION was named, citing WASHINGTON D.C. as the landfall site...NOT YELLOWSTONE...and the other comet to hit one of the worlds Oceans.
So I don't know if my post had anything to do with any in the Hidden Manna camp taking note that scripture prophecies a minimum of TWO (no specific number is named, there could be more...but TWO are definitely mentioned) comets prophecied to hit the earth in the prophecies noted in the Book of Revelation.
I do know though, at NO POINT PRIOR was that camp promoting MULTIPLE comets in their prophecies, in fact they were promoting ONLY ONE, and that one to hit YELLOWSTONE, and explanations in those years on their site suggesting "SEA" where wormwood is written to impact...was a metaphor for "THE OLD WORLD".
All of this said, in the year 2011, Renos finally publicly came out in both YouTube Videos, and on the sevenseals.com website posts and posts placed by proxy of the same onto the Mt. Carmel DB, and openly attached his name to be "THE CHOSEN VESSEL" and in such, he started the stage (just in case the 2012 prophecies failed...AGAIN) by finally publicly addressing his past FAILED TIMELINE PROPHECIES, and openly admitting to have prophecied incorrectly/falsely. He went on to note that scripture sites a TRUE PROPHET of GOD, can indeed prophecy falsely and he gave examples from scripture and scripture to back such up, citing he had just come to this revelation in that timeframe. I took particular note, because in 2003, I wrote and copyrighted an essay, of which I gave copies to Ron Goins and Clive Doyle in December of 2003 one early morning, actually I handed them to Ron and asked him to pass them to Clive as well, which Clive later noted to have recieved. Anyway, in the essays, one titled "THE NATURE OF PROPHECY" covered the exact same points Renos was making in 2011, with the same scriptures, and pretty much the same examples, noting that a True Prophet of God can indeed prophecy falsely, and still be a TRUE PROPHET of God...although such action has a harsh penalty. IN the essay of 2003, I noted to Ron and Clive the same point as well made by Renos in 2011 that, when a TRUE PROPHET of God does prophesy falsely, not only does he incur a death sentence upon himself (though the means and timeline for such are not stated or outlined in scripture)...whatever message that prophet is specifically attaching or has attached to that prophecied event that failed, citing such as a message of heaven...the Lord States..."THAT" Is the THING I HAVE NOT SPOKEN...and THAT (True) PROPHET HAS SPOKEN PRESUMPTUOUSLY".
I will have to dig through my archives of the Mt. Carmel DB, and may or may not post these things noted from that board later...but I will certainly later attach in it's entirety a copy of the 2003 Essay I gave Ron Goins and Clive Doyle titled "THE NATURE OF PROPHECY".
All of this said, Renos' doctrine being promoted from 2007/08 to 2011, did in fact change in late 2011, just as the LORD told me it would, had me tell others in the fall of 2010 it would and in the timeframe it was stated he would do so.
Now as we approach 2014...if his doctrine is again changing, and they have reverted back to the former prediction for a planet killer comet to hit Yellowstone, I am not surprised,but as of 2012...that camp had already prophecied such an event and re-prophecied it, setting dates between March 2012 to December 21, 2012, with particular emphasis on the timeframes of August 2012 and December 21st, 2012...and the dates came and went uneventful.
If I could offer more of their current doctrine I would but I have simply not been keeping up with it...though I do note the TIMELINE for those things he was predicting in 2012 after changing the doctrine of many years, and citing there would be no comet to Yellowstone in 2012, rather TWO COMETS were coming to Earth in 2014...and ONE not to YELLOWSTONE...but to WASHINGTON D.C., well, the timeline for that PREDICTION has not passed yet, so I guess we will have to wait and see, but somehow, I just really do not believe a Comet is going to hit Washington D.C. in 2014, at least certainly not one of the proportion and magnitude promoted by Renos throughout 2012 to bring the type of destruction he was promoting, or fulfill the events of scripture he was attaching to the timeframe. ALL THIS SAID...I LIKEWISE do not see Renos as a "FALSE SERVANT" or "FALSE PROPHET" either.
-Benjamin
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