HE has given permission for me to share it here and I felt it relevant to the thread:
Atonement
Something to consider
Lev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation to you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto YHWH.
“convocation” – It is a Shabbat (v:32) – We are to assemble
Clearly no fire is involved -or- 2 goats (Lev.16:5-22) in modern Atonement proceedings – 2 clear Torah commandment breaks / instruction secessions – (itself an enacted yet denied ‘CHANGE’!).
“ … afflictH6031 (H853) your souls:H5315 …” – Means Fasting?
(Given in the book ‘Back to the Melchizedek Future’) – You’ll need to look up the Definitions and Roots – understanding that;
It is understood that the verbiage before the ‘ :- ‘ sign is the definition. While the verbiage after the ‘ :- ‘ sign is what the translators have taken that word to mean.
Fast – from H6684 – צוּם – tsu^m – tsoom
A primitive root; to cover over (the mouth), that is, to fast: - X at all, fast.
Fasting – from H6685 - צום – tso^m – tsome
From H6684; a fast: – fast (-ing).
These Hebrew words – ‘tsum’ or ‘tsom’ do not occur in Torah; being the first 5 books (of Moses) – Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Do not occur in Lev.23:27 or Num.29:7.
Hence; ‘afflictH6031 (H853) your souls:H5315 ‘ seems more correctly to mean – to declare – enunciate that is to testify to ie confess ones short comings i.e. sin (by implication Lev.16:30).
The Day of Atonement is not mentioned before or in the Melchizedek Book of the Covenant (Ex.19:5-24:8 – Gal.3:15). The New Testament (the events of Melchizedek renewal) state that Yahshua is the atonement – 1Jn.1:3; 7, Rom.5:11, Col.3:15, Php.2:2, Jn.17:11; 20-23, etc. There is no mention in Torah that those before or Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel or Jacob’s physical 12 sons (for whom the Tribes of Israel are named) ever had a ‘day of atonement’ and with that an injunction to fast.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all. -
Obviously ‘the faith of Abraham’ is not of Levitical Law – (Gal.3:10; 17-19, Heb.7:11)
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to Yah by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. :11 And not only so, but we also joy in Yah through Yahshua Messiah, by whom we have now received the **atonement**.
Atonements were mentioned during the 40 days while Moses was on top of Mt. Sinai receiving the ‘added’ Law before the Israelites broke the Covenant; but eating was required (Aaron and Sons Ex.29:32-33 / compared to [Lev.7:5-6; 10:17]). A general Atonement was to be made once a year (nondescript of a 10th day of the 7th month – Ex.30:10); and a ransom for your souls was to be paid (Ex.30:12-16). But no mention of ‘fasting’ (or afflicting your soul) in a 7th month ‘Atonement’.
We will never fully know what the Melchizedek Atonement would have been or looked like; for the Israelites broke the Covenant in just a few days. Fasting (purportedly from ‘afflict your souls’ – Lev. 16:29-31; 23:27) ‘in the seventh month’ was not given till Leviticus; clearly after the Melchizedek Covenant break of Ex.32 and the subsequent Levitical Priesthood injunction & its imposed laws. (Ezk.20:25/Heb.9:10)
Shalom
~ By Dr. Dave Perry
Adding to my earlier comments in the original post in this thread in which I noted:
AFFLICTION ONES OWN SOUL, is about SELF DENIAL.
BUT THE REASON one is doing such on THE DAY OF ATONEMENT and one's attitude during such, is as important, if not moreso than the route one chooses to AFFLICT ones own soul in the first place!
Self Denial, can come in many fashions, as long as it is "SELF DENIAL" and "Afflcting" one's own soul. THere were reasons Yah did not observe the FASTING of those crying out in Isaiah 58.
As I read it, sure, they went without food and water, but were they afflicted in such? Is it possible to deny oneself food and water and fail to Afflict oneself, fail to humble oneself?
Isa 58:3 Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.
ISA 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.
Even their "REST" was work! They still Exacted all thier labors!
The "AFFLICTION" of Leviticus 23 is not named in detail as "HOW" one is to "Afflict" oneself...only that we are to do so.
Is denying onself food and water afflicting oneself, sure it is. But one can do such, and fail to afflict oneself in denying oneself to eat or drink. Thus there is more one way to Afflict oneself, that which YAH desires as I read it, have more to do with matters of the heart, than the body.
Isaiah 58
ISA 58:5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?
ISA 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
ISA 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
I would like to state a couple things in summary, and having read what Dr. Perry has written as well.
FIRST, noting that "AFFLICTING ONESELF IS ABOUT SELF DENIAL"...I think I chose a poor choice of terms...it is not truly about "SELF DENIAL AT ALL"...rather it is about "HUMILITY!"
Note that in the first post in this thread I noted that the passage of Isaiah 58, that contrary to those who teach we are to deny ourselves food and drink in this timeframe, that the fast that YAH wishes is for us to:
"ISA 58:7...deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? "
Now while admittedly we already covered that denying oneself food and drink is akin to HIDING from ones own flesh...is not then the very term "Self Denial" akin to the same?
Sure it is. Don't get me wrong, we are to afflict oursouls and I believe we are as Dr. Perry pointed out to be in a state of repentance and confession of our sins in the timeframe.
At the same time, the SELF denial we are to exercise, it to deny our PRIDE,our carnal nature which is a matter of spirit, not biological function, our flesh.
So to assert that "Afflicting ones own soul is about Self Denial"...is an accurate assertion taking all things considered, but it may be better asserted that "Afflicting" ones own soul, is about "HUMBLING ONESELF BEFORE YAH'"
Shalom,
-Benjamin
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