I have been friends with many of the Branch Davidian Survivors for years. I Spent countless thousands of hours interviewing them asking questions about the teachings of David Koresh.
I have likewise spent countless hours listening to surviving Audio Sermons of David Koresh.
I spent over a year, proof reading and collaborating on a final edit before presentation to publishers a Manuscript Titled “A Discussion of Branch Davidian Theology” by Livingstone Fagan who has been seen by many as the foremost leading authority on Branch Davidian Theology. In such over the last 13 years, in my experiences I have learned many lessons from the Surviving Students of David Koresh, and as well by observation of both them, and those attaching themselves to them. I have witnessed several, who entered by flatteries, to learn the doctrines of these surviving Students of David Koresh, only to later try to bend those lessons they were taught, and privately teach new doctrines and by such to later lay some sort of claim “to the Mantle” as it were. In such, is the major difference between myself and such personalities. I came through the door, my very first Contact with Clive Doyle, openly, publicly announcing God had given me a task, to complete the Ministry of David Koresh. The same was no different when I met Livingstone Fagan, and any doctrine I have presented, I have never hidden to do so, nor snuck it in the back door. SO before my very first conversations, The Branch Davidian Survivors I have met, knew I was openly proclaiming to have been receiving both visions and doctrines of Heaven. I will not go so far as to say I am endorsed, but attention is at least afforded those proclamations I am told to pass on as being sent of heaven.
In this, it should be known there are rifts in belief sets amongst the varied surviving students of David Koresh. Some would tell you there will be no more messengers, some are open to the idea but do not endorse that any have yet come. Others proclaim to be such a messenger but are not endorsed by the majority of their brethren.
After spending years examining the teachings of David Koresh, the ACTUAL undisputable teachings, in a few writings, and mostly in surviving Audio sermons, I can tell you that David Koresh himself cited there would be a Message and A messenger to come after him, and in such, He defined that messenger by a particular passage of Scripture, Revelation chapter 18, vs 1,2. He also cited he believed God would “Ressurect Brother Roden” to this task, “Benjamin” Roden. It was about 2007 before I realized this truth of David Koresh’s Teachings, and it was 2001 before I heard it for the first time, sometime after the first week of June 2001 when Clive Doyle gave me a set of Sermon Tapes by David Koresh.
Not even an hour before Clive gave me those tapes, 2 days before we would have the conversation noted in the very opening of this study, I had just attended my very first Sabbath Study at the new Mt. Carmel Chapel. Clive Doyle spoke on “Jonah” and I would not know for some time to come, that he in fact was basically quoting word for word a sermon by David Koresh of the same name. There were no sermons by David Koresh available to the public in those days. There was a site online by one of the Branch Davidian Survivors who was proclaiming to be “The Next Messenger”, but the same was preaching doctrine that was rejected by greater than 80% of his peers. While there were 11 people to survive the Fire on April 19th, 1993, there were far more surviving Church members, and many not present at any time during the 51 day Seige that made history.
After that Sabbath Study, and about a half hour before I was given those sermon Tapes of David Koresh, I openly proclaimed to Clive Doyle and before all who were there, that 1st Sabbath in June 2001, that in late August or early September of the year prior, 2000, that I had a vision in which I Saw David Koresh present as I was told by God “Behold, I give unto you a new name, ‘BENJAMIN’ “, at which point in the Vision David Koresh smiled as I was given the name, and then told me a thing. I continued in my public proclamation to cite I had tried to dismiss the thing, but a few months later, in the opening Week of January 2001, I had an angelic visitation in which I was awakened upon my bed and told “You will Finish the work David Koresh Started” to which I sat straight up in bed and argued “I AM NOT DOING THAT! THAT’S CRAZY AS HELL!” And I described a conversation that lasted about 20 minutes in which I argued, and ultimately was given 2 signs that would occur in a very specific fashion over the course of 2 weeks. I was told to cite my terms, and I argued “I am not doing that, it is a wicked generation that requires a sign”, in which I was told, “Okay, I will give you TWO SIGNS then” and the conversation continued in which it was told me that There would be a great earthquake overseas, followed by a Plane Crash on U.S. Soil. The events had to both be fulfilled in 2 weeks time. IT was then about 12:30 am on a Friday evening. I was also told one event would be fulfilled in one week, and the other in another week. And the events must be fulfilled in such fashion no later than 3 weeks from that conversation. These terms for such came about by my continual arguing the commission given, and citing terms and then backing up and repenting to cite I did not want to participate. In citing varied terms, I was trying to trip up the entity visiting me, to state things which would be very precise if coming about.
A week passed, nothing. 10 days, nothing, I figured I was in the clear, that at that point it would be IMPOSSIBLE for the things told in that conversation to come about if nothing occurred by the end of that second week. 14 days passed, NOTHING. I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS IN THE CLEAR! Then that 3rd Friday came, and all over the news that morning, a major earthquake had devastated India I believe it was, thousands dead and homeless. It could have been Indonesia, but I believe it was India. Anyway, I did not keep Sabbath in those days, but that very day would be my intiation into learning of Sabbath. While it had been the passing of 20 Roman Calendar Dates, I realized that the terms given me could still be fulfilled over the next 36 hours before Midnight on the Roman Saturday Calendar Date. This I reasoned by the nature of the HEBREW Calendar set forth by God, that if a Plane Crash Occurred, sometime AFTER THE SETTING SUN of SATURDAY, AND BEFORE MIDNITE the same evening it would still be two weeks from the proclamation told me in the Angelic Visitation 20 nights prior, 3 weeks by Roman Calendar Date, and yet by Hebrew Methods of Keeping Time, The Event of the PLANE CRASH would be in an entirely SEPARATE WEEK from the event of the Earthquake, as the NEW WEEK, while still the same ROMAN Calendar Date on Saturday at Sunset, in HEBREW TERMS would be A NEW WEEK. A CHILL RAN UP MY SPINE!!!
I called my Room-Mate immediately on Friday Morning after reading news of the Earthquake and upon realization of the things noted in the former paragraph. I told him, “Tobori, I gotta tell you something, and it is going to sound crazy as hell, but I gotta tell somebody, and I need A favor before I tell you, I need you to promise me something, I am going to tell you something, and you see this earthquake here, well, If there is A Plane Crash in the USA in the next couple days, We need to talk and I have to tell you something Bizarre that happened to me, but if there is not, I just need you to forget this conversation ever happened and never mention it to me again.” He agreed, and I let the matter go at that. We lived in a trailer on Jupiter Drive in Gateway Mobile Home park in Fayetteville North Carolina.
The Next Day, January 27th, 2001, at 7:37 pm EST, about an hour after Sunset, still the Roman Calendar Date, and still 4 hours and 23 minutes before the 21 day deadline of “THREE WEEKS” for both events to occur would pass, at 7:37 Pm EST, an HOUR after SUNSET, and by HEBREW TIMESTANDARDS occurring in an ENTIRELY SEPARATE WEEK than the great earthquake which occurred the day prior on January 26th, 2001…A private jet, a Beechcraft Super King Air 200, registration N81PF, carrying the Oklahoma State Cowboys Basketball team crashed near Strasburgh Colorado, killing ALL on board.
I shared the story told you here prior, with my room-mate. And I started getting visions on a nightly basis in my dreams, and occasionally a few waking visions while I was awake.
Day after day, I was printing out some headlines on AOL news which in themselves fulfilled some thing told me the day prior to tell others from some vision that day or night prior.
Some of them were very disturbing, and I was instructed to go to Texas to proclaim what I had been told to a group of people I did not know. I was, a Veritas Stranger.
I did not want to go, and did not have the money to go. And then one weekend in March I had a disturbing vision, in which I saw several children in peril, and was told to tell my neighbor of such, and that such would make headlines in as an unusual event, and that there would be no physical loss of life. The next day Sunday storms rolled through and a large tree limb fell on a house, through the roof, into a room, onto a couch with 2 young girls, who escaped injury. I told my neighbor that while this “Seemed” to fuflifll the thing told him prior, I thought there was something else, that the event in itself I felt was not the “UNUSUAL” aspect I had been told would make headlines, and that the headlines would be bigger than just local. The next morning, news broke out of Woodstock Georgia, 3 Teachers, all gym coaches, all from separate schools in the area, charged on the same day with allegations of sexually abusing students. That was the event.
That night, I would receive a sleeping vision so disturbing I lept out of bed from a deep REM stage sleep, and woke in the air and landing on my feet as I screamed “NO! I DON’T WANT TO SEE ANYMORE! I DON’T WANT TO SEE THIS!”
After which, I had a conversation with God, and cited I was greatly disturbed, that I realized I had been called to a thing, and given a gift, but that I realized in that moment, the gift was also a burden. Ultimately, I told God in the conversation I would accept the burden. That I would, if he would provide me the money, I would go to Waco.
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