My name is Dennis Ireland and I have been primarily with English Setters for fifty two years. The three fastest setters I have seen in my life-and I have looked at many-was a two year old bitch sired by an Ed Soph linebred Crockett 48 pound male mixed with both Commander and Zev blood. The mother was by Ninniger Zev (Tennessee Zev & Crockett bitch)the mother's mother was by a Zev Commander bitch.In the 1980's I had this little bitch in Texas-she would be out to a 1,000 yards before you could blink an eye flash pointing and busting every covey along the way. She weighed about 38 pounds- would run from horseback, fourwheeler or truck and we never could keep up with her.Sometimes she would be back to the truck when we finished running the string of dogs and sometimes not. You could check-cord into birds and she would point (as long as you held onto the cord) with straight up tail and high head-better than average nose-a natural backer if it was in a controlled situation.Never had a chance to back in a wild situation. Needless to say we didn't run her much as we didn't want to lose her for her owner. Never was bred.
Second dog - Crockett's Dandy Kid sired by Crockett's Dandy Man (Crockett Commander dog) Dam was Austin's Miss Reposte. Saw him run in Pheasant Futurity Kildeer Plains Ohio-raining so hard you couldn't see your horse's ears. Bracemate was Charlie O a son of Mr. Thor. George Bevin was riding in front of Charlie O most of the time to keep up with Dandy Kid. He was lost at about 30 minutes. Found about 90 minutes later on point (on pheasant)-flushed the bird and picked him up-obviously he was out of contention. Charlie O got 3rd place.
Third dog was Goliad (Dave Cpolie Crockett/LaIndia Lady).I ran the dog myself in amateur horseback trials in early to mid seventies-never saw a dog ahead of him.He was the same way in a workout.He had more guts and desire than any dog I ever owned or worked for other people. Miss him yet today.He was an all or nothing dog.
Sadly we had to let this line die out in the nineties as we were beginning to find too many genetic faults.
Hope you found this helpful Paul-Dennis