I always thought that Blue Diamond was as fast as any of the pointers he ran against. Of course, he may have had a little of that blood back a generation or three.
My old Counterdrive had some setter in him as to the right pointer bitch he would produce long hairs. Some of my friends bred their setter bitches to him, most litters to a setter were 1/2 and 1/2. Once in a while he'd get one or two from a pointer. The bitch he first produced long hairs from was a liver pointer. Any of you guys ever see a liver setter? I've seen several! :-)
Harry PS Some called them "chestnut".