>I always liked a runnin' dog. Still do.
Derbies were just older puppies, placed on race. Dogs weren't broke 'till the summer after their derby year. Nobody ever hurt a young dog by summer breaking after it's puppy season.
George Tracy once told me that he thought the way they ran derbies in Ohio was the best way. "But" I said, "Your fall derbies are broke!" "Right but I'd rather break them a year later, better for the dogs!" That was a long time ago but I never forgot it. Harry
The main difference being that derbies point, puppies don't. Pups just run through birds, derbies should point them (and hold them for a time). How much time? Some say 'till the handler flushes them and I guess I would agree with that, although in Ohio back in the day, no handler was necessary - most derbies knew how to flush on their own! :-) Fall derbies anyway! By Spring, it was nice to see a derby hold birds 'till the handler flushed. After all, the difference between May and September is onlya few months!