: I think flagging can come from at least 2 causes besides heredity.
1) Something went wrong when training on planted birds. As I have seen numerous dogs flag, soft point and even pee on planted birds. But these same dogs were rock solid on wild birds.
2) birds have run off, dog does not have a nose full of sent and the dog is letting you know they are not there in front of him and the dog will not move up on his own or relocate. This is another training fault.
I have one in my kennel now that flagged on planted birds for the last 2 years and couldn't get him to point wild birds till last summer which he is doing now and is solid on them only he looks terrible. Some of these dogs teach you more than the good ones. Natural good dogs make you look good but they don't teach you much.
Both of these forms of flagging I believe come from the training methods which have developed the flagging. My experience is that some times these are sensitive dogs and they don't understand the whole picture of what is expected of them..........Dave
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: I will say that I am on the opposite side of
: that theory Harry.
: I have NEVER had a dog flag on libbies or
: refuse to point them, etc that you hear
: I had a b###h years ago with a lot of Elhew
: (her sire was a dbl grson of Marksman, her
: dam a grdau of Jungle and Gonsmoke) that
: looked like a statue on wild birds but who
: flagged on every box quail she ever
: pointed!! Never got over it. Other than
: that she was a decent dog: beautiful
: conformation, ran really big, tail straight
: up on wild birds etc. She had a few puppy
: placements, a derby placement or two but no
: shooting dog. And her pups flagged. (I only
: bred her once) Her mama was the same way,
: perfect on wild birds, flagged on box quail.
: I hunted both a lot in S Alabama, killed a
: lot of quail over nice points with both of
: them as they both were good birdfinders and
: broke easy.