To the male who beat the real female severely enough to make her quit, please get in the ring with Rhonda Rousey, in a cage. I'd pay $5,000 for a ticket. Karma is coming son.
To the Olympic committee who allowed this travesty, may your daughters all have buck teeth and hairy backs and spend their whole lives in your basement and may your sons end up with a prison boyfriend named Big Bubba.
And to those who support these freaks of nature crossing genders to gain some fame, please come to your senses. Our real females deserve credit for how far they've come. You're selling them out for votes and political correctness.
Promises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys
Posted by MyPillowGuy on August 2, 2024, 7:00 pm, in reply to "Boys Will Be Boys"
From what I read, this creature was banned by the IBA from competing against females.
The IBA handled certifying eligible fighters for the IOC.
The IOC, being the IOC, demanded payment from the IBA for them doing work for the IOC.
IBA told them to go fly a kite.
IOC took it on their own.
The culprit in the Tuck N’ Punch caper of 2024, I believe, is the IOC.
But what do I know, I sell pillers.
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys
Posted by Soccer on August 3, 2024, 10:50 am, in reply to "Boys Will Be Boys"
The interesting twist to this story is that the boxer in question, Khelif is not Transgender. She has a condition where the female body naturally produces more testosterone than other females.
She was born female, has always been female, but because she produces more testosterone than a female normally would she is stronger and more masculine.
So, does that change things? Her opponent apologized for fueling the Transgender implications.
Should a woman who does not supplement with anything like testosterone, but naturally produces more testosterone be allowed to compete with other women?
Re: Boys Will Be Boys
Posted by Joe Smith on August 3, 2024, 11:10 am, in reply to "Boys Will Be Boys"
Liberal women seem ok with men participating in women's sports so maybe we should just have sports and not concern ourselves with gender at all. Why half-ass it, either do it all the way or not at all. If LeBron wants to play in the WNBA, let him. Riley Gaines seems to be the only female who cares about it, so let's do away with all women's sports. Getting shut out in 3 straight games by the Pirates is quite a feat.
How do those best fans in baseball like that?
Re: Boys Will Be Boys
Posted by opinionated on August 3, 2024, 12:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Boys Will Be Boys"
Soccer, she didn't pass a test to participate in previous competitions because of her excess testosterone levels.
Let's put it this way. Knowing this happened, and assuming you had a teen daughter who trained be a boxer, would you want her to compete against this person? Be honest. Your daughter may suffer concussion, broken nose, etc.
This is the same thing as letting a steroid loaded male participate and counting his records. Clearly baseball has been filled with juiced players. "Wrasslers" are so pumped up now they can't twitch without tearing skin.
I'll stick with being prejudice or paranoid when protecting female athletes. My daughter played softball and basketball. I would not let pitch to a juiced up female batter and risk injury.
On this one, we'll just agree to disagee.Promises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
Drill Baby Drill
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Posted by opinionated on August 3, 2024, 12:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Boys Will Be Boys"
IF I'm wrong on this one, it doesn't change the subject that trans people should not compete in the sport they weren't born to.
I keep seeing Riley Gaines on t.v. and she has now become a strong advocate for women's swimming and all sports. That girl apparently started swimming as a kid, worked her tail off and swam in the NCAA championships only to have a "trans" with a lump in his one-piece suit, temporarily take away her championship. That's wrong on every level.Promises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
Opinionated - we may not be totally far apart on this one. The backlash against this boxer was because people thought she was Trans and she is not.
You are right, I probably would not want my daughter to box against her, but it wouldn't be my first choice of sport for her anyway. If she had the talent and really wanted to do it, I wouldn't try to stop her.
While I'm fully supportive of Trans folks, I do think if an athlete is taking testosterone to facilitate the transition, it does offer an unfair advantage.
In the case of Khelif, she is not taking testosterone, it's her body chemistry and her chromosomes that make her the way she is. Other female athletes have successfully beat her and I would say there are other female boxers that could likely injure her despite her level of testosterone.
I don't know what the answer is here to be fair to everyone. Should she be prevented from playing sports because of her natural hormone levels? Should she be forced to take female hormones to bring her in line with other female athletes?
If there are going to be some rule on naturally occurring hormone levels, they need to be consistent... what level is too much. If they are going to do that, everyone would have to be tested and there would need to be some kind of option for those that naturally exceed the limit. Do they compete against men or they just can't participate?
Would any of this have been a issue if her opponent had kicked the crap out of her? Again, other women have won bouts against her.
She's still female and should compete with the other females. Conversely, should a sissified male be allowed to compete with the females? IMO, no.If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain
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Posted by Joe Smith on August 4, 2024, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: Boys Will Be Boys"
He isn't intersex. He isn't trans either. Imane Khelif is a male who through a birth defect never developed a penis. I think Gerold Nadler has the same affliction, look at him. I really think they should just do away with all genders in sports and be done with it. Basketball is simply basketball, boxing is boxing, swimming is swimming. May the best he she or it win.Getting shut out in 3 straight games by the Pirates is quite a feat.
"Imane Khelif is a male who through a birth defect never developed a penis"
You're wrong again, Joe Smith. Khelif is biologically a female. I think you know that, but you wanted to get in what you think is a clever diss of Nadler.