Everyone knows the Deep State Swamp, DNC, Mainstream media and Big tech coordinated this second coup attempt of this president. Now they may well pull it off, but the medias attempt to bum rush this through seems a bit desperate.
Media outlets presume if they call Biden the winner loud enough and long enough that it will somehow prevent the proper booth review of the play on the field. Make no mistake if the roles were reversed they would be screaming bloody murder on every news network in the country and Big Tech would not be censoring them in anyway shape or form.
The massive fraud is not even deniable at this point, its just a matter as to if the courts have the stomach to make things right, considering the considerable rioting and looting that would follow.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Im afraid this was decided the day after the 2016 election. Iran and Venezuela should be sending election monitors here instead of the other way around.
They wont be content until the entire country is as effed up as Illinois. Meanwhile the Chinese leaders are ecstatic and for good reason. John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Re: Of course Biden didnt actually win this Election.
Well, yes the problem seems to be that Trump and his people need more then theories to win in a court,,,they do not consider theories, just those dang facts and they are not there so far...just 16 rejections so far by the courts....but Trump is free to keep trying.....dang those facts....
Of course this coordinated steal is ok, just dont try anything underhanded to try and right that wrong. No worries, Republicans never do anything like that.
In Georgia they arent even validating ballots just recounting, which is a sham in itself.
In the meantime they are still partying like its 1999 in China. I bet Hunter has himself a new cute little underage Asian girl to play with too. John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
by Phoenix Capita… Mon, 11/16/2020 - 08:49 I want to stress in advance, that I DO NOT want to be political in this briefing. I am not saying I LIKE any of the recent developments. And I’m certainly NOT saying I want a particular candidate to win.
All I am saying is that the election is a mess and from what I can tell, no one in the media is actually outlining what’s to come based on the law. Instead I’m seeing a lot of political opinion, being presented as fact, when it isn’t.
The media wants you to believe the election is over.
By law, it isn’t.
Unless a candidate concedes, the election remains in play until December 14th when states cast their electoral college votes.
So, unless President Trump concedes between now and then, Joe Biden hasn’t won anything, no matter what the media tells you. Indeed, the media has no say in this, anymore than they can decide what color the sky is; they’re simply trying to get you angry so you’ll continue to watch their awful shows so they can sell your eyeballs to advertisers.
With that in mind, we need to take a step back and assess how this election is likely to play out based on the LAW, not public opinion or media propaganda.
Based on the law, it is highly possible and in fact probable that Donald Trump will end up winning the 2020 Presidential election.
Why?
Because the election is now in the courts. And the courts have a clear precedent for how contested elections play out.
When the courts get involved in an election, it becomes an issue of evidence. Specifically, what a given court decides is compelling versus non-compelling evidence, and how the court chooses to address the issue of voter fraud if indeed there is compelling evidence.
For instance, if President Trump’s legal team goes to court and says, “we want to have a vote audit in Michigan because there was voter fraud” the first thing the court will ask them is, “what evidence do you have to support this claim?”
If the President Trump’s legal team’s answer is “we saw some numbers that looked suspicious,” the court controls its urge to laugh, throws out the case, and that’s that.
However, if the President’s legal team responds, “we have sworn affidavits from 50 witnesses, video evidence, as well as three whistleblowers” then it’s a completely different story.
Once evidence of fraud is introduced to the courts via a lawsuit, the court, NOT the voters and certainly NOT the media, is in charge of the election.
The courts can demand a vote audit of every single vote counted in an election. If, during the vote audit, actual fraud is discovered, the court can rule that those votes are no longer valid, the formal vote counts can change, and it is possible that a given state ends up declaring a different winner.
Even if fraud is not discovered by the audits, but there is a particular problem with vote cards (the wrong type of ink was used, the hole punch didn’t go all the way through the ballot as was the case in Florida in 2000, etc.), the courts can deem those problematic votes as illegitimate.
This again can mean the formal vote counts can change, and it is possible that a given state ends up declaring a different winner.
This process is now underway in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona.
Any one of those states could see Biden end up losing (remember, he only won these states by 0.5% for most of them). That means that if Biden loses even 10,000 votes due to fraud or some technicality (the ballots arrived after the deadline), Trump could be declared the winner.
Again, I am NOT saying I want this to happen. I am simply outlining how this process works. If a court says “jump” you jump, no matter who you are.
Speaking of which…
Two weeks ago, Supreme Court Justice Alito (as in the Supreme Court of the U.S., not of just one state) ORDERED the State of Pennsylvania to segregate and count separately any ballots that arrived after 8PM on election night.
This is a legal order from the Supreme Court of the United States. If you disobey it, you can go to prison. And because it’s a federal violation, the lawsuit isn’t going to be “Joe Schmo vs. John Doe,” it’s “the United States of America vs. Joe Schmo.”
My sources tell me that for Alito to order this without any comment from other justices suggests the Supreme Court as a whole is supportive of his action.
So, this is the Supreme Court of the United States effectively stating, “we are now getting involved in this mess.” That is a big deal.
If you are looking for a reason as to why the media rushed into announcing Joe Biden as the President Elect Saturday (the day after Alito’s order), this is probably it.
The Democrats and their media allies (the media companies that lean left) realize that once the courts get involved, the odds of Biden actually winning drop dramatically. So, they are attempting to mount as much pressure as possible for President Trump to concede so that the election is finished before ever entering a courtroom.
Remember, the only way this election ends right now is if President Trump concedes.
If he doesn’t, but instead chooses to fight in court, then the process follows the path I outlined a little while ago, where the courts decide which votes count and which ones don’t.
For an election in which multiple states were “won” by less than 0.5%, the odds GREATLY improve for President Trump once these issues are introduced in court. He only needs to have 10,000 or so ballots thrown out in order to flip multiple states.
And bear in mind, that if a given court accepts or rejects a given lawsuit, the situation doesn’t end there.
If either party or candidate is dissatisfied with a lower court’s ruling, they can appeal the ruling, which can result in the lawsuit moving up to a higher court, eventually reaching the Supreme Court, which serves as the ultimate arbiter of election law in the U.S.
This was the case with the 2000 Presidential election, when the Supreme Court ruled that vote cards from Florida that didn’t have clean hole punches were NOT valid, which gave the state to George W. Bush and resulted in Al Gore conceding the election on December 13th.
And the Supreme Court’s justices are currently 6-3 conservative to liberal. Even if Roberts were to side with the liberals, the conservatives still hold the 5-4 majority.
Put simply, the ultimate arbiter in court rulings on elections favors Trump. Provided he DOESN’T concede, the odds greatly favor him winning a second term. That’s what the law and the courts say. And they’re the ones that matter in this situation.
Posted by D_Cline on November 16, 2020, 1:22 pm, in reply to "Your thoughts on this"
That works, i was thinking the Biden adoring media decided who won and lost these races. I thought they along with Barrack Obama and the View were the officials in charge.
I also thought Big Tech, the ones censoring conservative voices had a hand in it also. Thanks Riverbender for clearing that up.
The fraud is real, and it is massive, the only question is do the courts have the stomach for it? John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Re: Of course Biden didnt actually win this Election.
3Dee...that is funny....but Trump is putting America in real danger by refusing to concede...he clearly lost...THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD....someone need to tell him that the American People decide who they want...they do not want him...Goodby
I called Trump and told him that Millgirl of Granite City ,where he put 2,000 people back to work said it was over. Hearing that he said he will resign later today. NOT!Not only will pre-existing conditions and Medi Care be left alone after the election, there will be full coverage for TDS illness experienced by so many dems.
Just because the massive fraud is being censored by the media and big tech doesnt mean they havent got the proof. If the situation was reversed the media would be in a tizzy, and Big Tech would not be blocking anyone but the naysayers.
Its good to see people talking more on this forum that have come out from under the rocks they had been hiding under for a few years. Of course they will slither back if this injustice is overturned, but still.
The same software that was used in Venezuela for Chavez and Maduro was used in 33 states here. The Democrats fixed the 2016 election and Trump beat the fix. He forced the Democrats to add on the fly to the fix in 2020 because of his overwhelming support. They got a little sloppy.
Will we become a Banana Republic or not, that is what is at stake here, not peoples feelings about Trump being an arrogant businessman. He has done a remarkable job leading this nation despite having every obstacle imaginable thrown at him.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
There is a big cloud forming on the horizon and a storm is brewing. Yesterday, Trump’s top legal advisor indicated that they have now secured all the electronic evidence and affidavits they need to prove election fraud on a grand scale in almost every state in the country. Their electronic data investigation of the Old Dominion voting systems provided clear evidence of voter fraud, vote tampering, and system irregularities that could potentially wipe out the entire election results from every state that utilized these machines. Sounds like this is a long way from being over, as you have to believe no court in the country after reviewing this evidence will just push it aside as nothing to see here. I totally expect this to land squarely on the US Supreme Court as they know the election process is central to maintaining our Democracy and need to be involved. Once again, chess versus checkers, Checkmate Trump!
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Sleepy Joe said the delay will affect the control of COVID. Well hey there Joe, in the spirit of unity, share your plan wit the nation and don’t wait for January. I mean you have app the answers.Not only will pre-existing conditions and Medi Care be left alone after the election, there will be full coverage for TDS illness experienced by so many dems.
I think VP Bidens strategy to hide in his basement was probably well thought out. His handlers just didnt want to face the prospect that some misguided reporter might ask him a legitimate question.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
IMO someone needs to tell this mindless “Walter” to pump the brakes, he hasn’t won anything yet. He’s still that 47 year career “Do nothing Politician. And just for the record MSM declarations are as worthless as their poll prediction numbers! "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
I cant really even blame VP Biden, he is just saying and doing what he is told. The way i see it if he was in Trumps position, virtually all the media, Silicon Valley and his handlers would be screaming bloody murder in how he was cheated and that heads are going to roll. His camp certainly would not be pressured to just move on in any way, and we would 100% be witnessing major every night riots.
Since this now at least second orchestrated Coup d'etat on Trump has to this point been going well for the fraudsters. VP Biden needs only to sit back and watch and sniff his grandkids.
His partners in crime are diverse and many, as the evil outsider Trump has been targeted once more by the establishment who despise him. Its sadistic, immoral, and unthinkable, but this is the kind of sh** that you know can happen in other countries, but never here, and yet here we are.
Most know this is an injustice, but for those that for whatever reason just hate Trump, they dont care about any of that. Those people want what they want, no matter how it has to go down, its really that simple.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Not only will pre-existing conditions and Medi Care be left alone after the election, there will be full coverage for TDS illness experienced by so many dems.
LOL Opie, I am sure Trump really gives flying crap what you think...I am also sure he does not care what I think, but, then again that is reality...something that don't seem to matter to a lot of posters on here....I just like to get on here once in a while to stir the pot...
Ya, you like to get on here when you think things are going your'e way, other times, not so much. Different strokes for different folks i guess.
I doubt that President Trump very often visits this site so he probably doesnt care what anyone on here thinks. Im not sure what that has to do with anything, but i suppose to some people it has some significance. Maybe someone should send him an invite.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
D Cline, I have been on here many years, you are the Newby and can on to air your love of Trump...that is fine, but do not speak of what you do not know, that is me...have a great day...
Being a member and posting a lot are different things. Its easy to comment when things appear to going your way, not so easy when they are not. I have a love for a legit Democratic Republic, but not so much a Banana Republic which is where it appears we are headed. Any supposed love i have for President Trump pales in the hate that you and many others have for him.
If VP Biden had won fair and square that would be fine with me, i just dont like the underhanded stuff, which every single person on here knows is what we are witnessing. I survived President Obama, i can survive his stooge too.
You dont make gains in the house when the suppression polls said that would not be possible, and gains in state legislatures and receive millions more votes than any President ever running for re election and lose to an old used up fool like VP Biden. The tens of thousands of 4 AM votes for Biden only, with the rest of the ballot left blank is where the sloppiness came in. The establishment thought they had evrything covered, and just were not prepared for what they were facing.
President Trump exceed expectations despite Big Tech doing all that it could to help VP Biden. They got a little bit ahead of themselves and had to stop and start counts, change the multipliers and get busy in the basements creating votes for Mr. Biden. This is where the Banana Republic comments come to play, because thats exactly how they do it.
I expected as much and told everyone i know that President Trump could get a hundred million votes and still probably lose because the Establishment is strong, the swamp is deep, and the DNC is determined. They tried and tried for his entire first term to take him out, they sure as hell werent going to half ass this election effort. They got caught, but it remains to be seen if they will get away with it or not.
People will be doxed, threatened, called all kinds of names just like the two people in Michigan who had a sudden mind change before agreeing to certify the state election results. A few phone calls, maybe a broken windshield can really help someone have a change of heart. Intimidation is a tried and true third world tool, perhaps it will work on a wide scale here, perhaps not. That is really going to determine how this ends up.
Dorsey and Zuckerberg will do what they can to help, the media empire will also, its going to be interesting.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
You have an opinion, nothing more. You are stating what you believe but do not have facts to back it up. I do not hate Trump. I just do not believe he has the ability to lead this country in the right direction. I believe him to be a president who wants to keep America divided into two parties. The Democrats and those who hate them..There is no longer a Republican Party. It has become the party if Trump where laws and rules do not apply, and it you are honest, you get fired. It is all about TRUMP not America...that is my opinion and the majority of voters....we fired him plain and simple. He could at least save face by a peaceful transfer of power, but even that is just too much for him to do.....
Damn, i could have written this for you. John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
So he could have simply stepped aside, you mean like the Democrats did in 2016?????? Thanks for that, i needed a good laugh.
I sometimes believe that we need to experience the misery that is soon to be upon us. Joe Biden is the Hero of the Stupid, and truth be known they dont even want him, they are waiting for that Socialist VP he chose.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Hopefully you would have written it for fewer typos.
You know what will be fun to watch with the democrats? For three years, until COVID hit, the economy was still the work of the Savior Obama. Of course those of us with substantial investments know better. This past year, with democrats shutting down the economy, they want to blame Trump for the first quarter losses. Of course I'm happy to say that I'm still $37,000 ahead of where I was on January 1.
As far as COVID, the dems blame Trump for all of the deaths. We'll be six months into 2021 and people will still be dying. That of course won't be Biden's fault. It will be the fact that Trump didn't contain it soon enough.
As for our security in the world, Biden will follow weenies like Carter and Obama and allow other countries to do what they want to us and our allies. We'll be in another endless war by the end of 2022.
Now in the meantime, the DC HO will have probably taken over most of the daily activities in running the nation. The free army will love the bonus system. Hey, stay home, get paid. We'll pay for your college, your insurance and maybe even your mortgage if COVID stays around.
Yes Mill Chick, you sure did win. Just understand that the bashing that people like you put on Trump will probably come back ten fold. Time will tell.Not only will pre-existing conditions and Medi Care be left alone after the election, there will be full coverage for TDS illness experienced by so many dems.
No voter fraud, that may be the single dumbest thing i have ever heard in my life. You know that isnt true, you just have to sing the party line, i get it. Al Gore took quite a long time before he gave it up and he wasnt even challenging any voter fraud issues. I dont remember anyone saying, lets get on with this already, shocking isnt it?
Im pretty sure before this is all over with we will know about plenty of voter fraud, and thats not even counting the numerous Trump ballots that somehow wound up in some lake or a dumpster. I wonder why in these Democrat cities they put pizza boxes on the windows to block Republicans from being able to witness the ballot counting? Seems to me that anyone that would do that is probably hiding something. John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
In Detroit alone they had 4,788 duplicate ballots 32,519 more registered votes tan eligible, 2,503 dead people registered, one born in 1823. Someone has to be really dedicated to vote when they are 203 years old. I would give 1,000 to 1 odds he or she voted for Joe Biden, and left the rest of the ballot blank.
Andrew Yang said he was going to move to Georgia for one day and vote in the special elections and he was going to bring half of California with him. He was mildly scolded by a few folks in Georgia, but everyone knows this very thing will happen.
Keep in mind Dominion Resources and Smartmatic Software. They are major players in much of the systematic fraud. The connection with Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinsteins husbands is very interesting. Oh wait damn it, i forgot Mill Girl says we didnt have any voter fraud. Never mind. What we didnt have was any Russia collusion, except by Mrs. Clinton. I bet thats what she meant. John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Stir the Pot? Sounds like to me, if you voted for Biden you not stirring the pot, you’re smoking it! Not to worry though, the Free Army will make sure you survive when clueless “Walter” sells out the American steel companies to China. "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Well, now that was fun...I will now step away and let you few on hear continue to post all your theories..I will just stick to facts...by the way Opie, you might want to practice those typos you point out to others....have a good day...I know you are and ok guy...peace
Re: Of course Biden didnt actually win this Election.
Those were not computer glitches we saw in this election, they were features.
If the Trump team has nothing, why the coordinated effort by the media and Big Tech to not allow them to get that so called nothing message out? Does anyone think they would be blocking Biden in the exact same position. If you say yes, you are of course lying. They would be grandstanding and whipping up the rioters.John Kerry as Climate Czar? Only Democrats could pick a guy with 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts and a private jet, to tell you that YOU should take the bus to stop pollution.
Re: Of course Biden didnt actually win this Election.
on November 10, 2020, 5:48 pm
