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Edison Lofts

Posted by chris hankins <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=chris+hankins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 13, 2020, 6:18 pm

I attended the Edison Lofts groundbreaking this afternoon. This is the renovation of the Tri-City YMCA

As a 5-8 year old child, I learned to swim, play chess, some sign language and how to play billiards. The swim team was my first sport to be a part of a team.

I also learned how to skip out of swim practice and go to the library, the Woolworth store (or a ben Franklin store). I also learned you could jam the coin operator on the pool table with a lock blade and play for 2 hours on a singe quarter. There were all kinds of people down there, whether living there, or just coming to have fun like myself. Mostly all great memories....

Lots of memories, really glad that this project is happening and will be an asset to the down town area

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 13, 2020, 8:09 pm, in reply to "Edison Lofts"

Your post takes me back Mr. Chris. I'm one of numerous businessmen from days of old that used to spend our long lunch hours down there playing volleyball or shooting some baskets. In later days we even took on the racquetball courts.

I was so disappointed when the Y closed and moved out to the base in what is basically a work out room. I wish my kids could have known the fun of things that went on in the Y back in the day. Teen Town dances, swimming, basketball leagues. What a place.

When I hear some of the yokels in our town bad mouthing the project that is going on there now it makes me sick. A beautiful old building, still structurally sound would have been torn down if not for this effort. Kudos to the developer. When you hear some of the geniuses in this town that think they know more than a ten million dollar investment firm, it makes me laugh. These types couldn't finance a 76 Volkswagen yet do nothing but put down efforts by people much smarter than they are.

It's typical and that's why I'm surprised a major company would invest in a town where some of the inbreds do nothing but complain.

At any rate, I return to your original post and join you in being happy about the renovation.

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Posted by chris hankins <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=chris+hankins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2020, 3:42 am, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

Great post Opie, thank you for sharing. I missed the great days of the Y, but so glad I did have a good experience and have vivid memories of them.

You are exactly right, so many people will slam this. But the Business/people that makes the investments usually do their homework to make sure they are not throwing away their money.

About 1989, when I was on student council, we hosted an after prom party which was a lot of fun.

I too, was sad when they moved the Y to the base, without a gym and indoor pool, it really is just a workout facility. That was the difference with the Tru-City Y. They had so much happening.

The building is approaching 100 years and in about 1 year it will be open and I am so excited to see how it turns out.

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Posted by Tired <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Tired' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2020, 5:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

I still haven't heard an explanation of financing. Is the city on the hook for any of this and how much is it costing?

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Posted by poor ol elroy <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=poor+ol+elroy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 14, 2020, 5:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

Im so excited about this and proud of our leaders who no doubt helped this project move forward to fruitation.
I grew up by the Y also, my parents, who were way too religious, told me to stay away from the place because it had a pool table in it. Naturaly, thats where i learned the game of pool. I would check out the Judo room in the half basement also, the windows would be open in the summer, then ride my bike over to the police station, check on who was in jail, talk to them awhile, the windows would be open there also.
I had quite the childhood, im just gittin started.....

Re: Edison Lofts

Here is an article that has some info on financing.

https://www.stltoday.com/pr/business/rise-community-development-transforms-ymca-into-arts-hub-and-affordable/article_b8f2be1c-21b7-11ea-b8fe-5cb9017bff17.html

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So these are going to be KP downtown? Kinda like the bus depot?

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You see Mr Chris, another financial wizard.

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Posted by Tired <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Tired' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2020, 4:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

So tell Mr. Wizard, how much does this break down for each unit, and how much is taxpayer funded? I hope I'm proved wrong, but low income does not equate to big spenders downtown.

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Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2020, 4:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

Mr. Chris .. the link you provided must not be viewable to everyone.

This is from the Advantage paper ..

Edison Avenue Lofts (Granite City): A historic rehabilitation of the former YMCA in downtown Granite City into a mixed-income, mixed-use apartment building offering 37 affordable units. Developed by Rise Community Development, the building is in a walkable section of downtown adjacent to a park, a new community theater, and a historic library.

Once sold to investors, the tax credits will generate an estimated $241.4 million in private capital to finance the creation or preservation of 1,327 affordable apartments for low- to moderate-income families, seniors, veterans, and persons with special needs. The construction activity is expected to support 2,379 full-time construction jobs and 524 permanent jobs after completion.

“The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit is instrumental in helping IHDA achieve our mission of financing safe, quality and affordable housing in Illinois,” IHDA Executive Director Audra Hamernik said. “This program is a proven public-private partnership that allows us to leverage the resources and expertise of the private sector to create jobs, generate tax revenue, and most importantly, ensure working families, seniors, and people with special needs have a place to call home.”

The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit program was created with the passage of the Tax Reform Act of 1986. The Internal Revenue Service allocates a certain number of tax credits annually to each state based on population. IHDA awards the credits in a competitive application process, and once developers receive the credits, they sell them to investors and use the equity generated to reduce construction and operating costs. The savings in underwriting are passed on to the renter in the form of below-market rents, which must remain affordable for a minimum of 30 years. IHDA has administered the program in Illinois since it began in 1986. Since its inception, the program has financed more than 90,975 units of affordable housing in the state, generating $4.9 billion in private capital for affordable housing.

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Associated Bank provided $7.5 million of Low Income Housing Tax Credit equity for the rehabilitation of the former Granite City, Illinois, YMCA into Edison Avenue Lofts. Only 15 miles east of downtown St. Louis, the mixed-use building is located at 2001 Edison Ave., across from City Hall in Granite City.

Rise Community Development is the developer. Boston Capital is the tax credit syndicator for the project.

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Renovations will transform historic Granite City YMCA into affordable artist lofts
When finished, the building will accommodate 37 affordable one- and two-bedroom apartments, two commercial spaces, art studios, a gallery, and a fitness room.

Granite City's YMCA building, located at the intersection of Edison and E. 20th, has stood empty for nearly 10 years. But Rise Community Development hopes to change that. By June 2010, the neighborhood revitalization nonprofit plans to turn the historic building into the Edison Avenue Lofts, which will accommodate 37 one and two-bedroom affordable artist lofts, two commercial spaces, art studios, a gallery, and a fitness room.

“What we have is a project that is part of bigger community development efforts,” says Mark Stroker, Director of Real Estate Development at Rise Community Development. “In a lot of cases, we are involved in that community development planning. In this case, Granite City has done a pretty extensive economic development and action plan. They particularly identified the Y building as a priority, and as a building they want to see reused, repurposed, and done in a way that really respects its history.”

Stroker says Rise had been in touch with Granite City officials for three or four years about various buildings and opportunities in the area. But the conversation always came back to this particular building.

“Rise has been a terrific partner in this project,” says James Amos, the Granite City economic development director. “When I came to the job about three years ago, this was the first project I earmarked as something I wanted to work on. It’s a beautiful building architecturally, and it’s in a great part of town. It sits right across from city hall off a nice green space.”

Stroker says the renovation is deliberately “geared toward the art community. When you do these historic projects in particular, you have to really respect the character and design of the larger common areas.”

Those common areas will be transformed into the commercial, studio, and gallery space. Rise will also have a few units set aside for veterans who work with art either as therapy or for a living.

“Granite City has re-imagined itself as a place for artists,” he continues. “Everybody knows its reputation as a steel city, and they are certainly happy to have those furnaces back up and running, but what they have done is try to foster a very comfortable place for artists.”

Stroker describes the vibe as similar to Cherokee Street, possibly because some of the same people are involved. Galen Gondolfi, for example, “is well known in the region for being involved in the regeneration of Cherokee Street, and after that took hold [he and his partners] started investing here,” says Amos.

Gondolfi runs G-CADD, a consortium of creative project spaces along the 1800 block of State Street in downtown Granite City. In 2015, an old church was renovated to become the Alfresco Performing Arts Center, about a block and a half from the soon-to-be Edison Avenue Lofts.

“It happened in an organic way, and we want to bolster that,” Amos says. “There’s a really interesting mix of industry and urban that’s really hard to find anywhere else.”

The Edison Avenue lofts are now approved for funding and the building was added to the register of National Historic Places in September 2017.

“I think the idea is to both have this project fit in, but also to have it be a real catalyst for bringing economic development and vitality back to downtown Granite City,” says Stroker. “Having more people back to work [in the steel industry]—that adds vitality.”

Funding for the building will come from a variety of places—affordable housing tax credits, federal historic tax credits, funds Rise is putting forward and other sources. The team hopes to close on the construction financing possibly as early as November, or at least by early 2019, and will begin construction within a few weeks of the financial closing.

Amos is optimistic for Granite City’s future: Both the artist lofts and the developments at Granite City Steel “are working in a symbiotic way to revitalize our city,” he says. “There are really legitimate reasons that people will want to take a second look at Granite City, and once they do, we think they’ll really like what they see.”

Edison Lofts

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Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by Riverbender <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Riverbender' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2020, 5:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

Granite politics gets funnier by the day
LOL a new KP
Next on the agenda Hollie Rorie will manage it

Pure financial Wizardry

200k a pop for ONE BEDROOM APTS! Financial Wizardry at it's finest. You could litterally buy up almost every house in the downtown area for that kinda cash.

Re: Pure financial Wizardry

Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2020, 6:37 pm, in reply to "Pure financial Wizardry "

The people in charge seem to have experience and know what they're doing. I don't know where you read $200k, but I read affordable housing. At least someone is willing to try something.

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

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Again, since some of you probably don't have a pot to piss in, your economic predictions are probably not worthy of a Wall Street investment.

Here's the deal. If you read the articles and understand them, you realize that "some" low income is available to veterans (thank God), to start up artist who don't earn huge livings, etc...

Do you really think these things are going to be sold for $200 grand? LOL. If so, I have a bridge over the Mississippi we need to discuss.

Nor will you see a single mother with 7 kids living in a one bedroom artist loft.

Guess what, St. Louis has similar set ups right in the heart of downtown. Investors understand that the tax credits and low income status will yield a great return in about ten years. My guess is this group will make a fortune on this deal and look to buy up several blocks of downtown GC to create similar ventures.

How about looking on the bright side instead of forecasting doubt and negativity for a change. That or run for the mayor's job and see what you can do.

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Re: Affordable housing = another KP

I'll be happy to translate this information for the weak of mind.

Funding for the project will come from a variety of sources—affordable housing tax credit and historic rehabilitation tax credit equity provided by Associated Bank through Boston Capital, construction financing from FCB Banks, HOME funds provided by Madison County Community Development and the Illinois Housing Development Authority and US Bank NA made a IAHTC eligible charitable contribution. Rise is the developer, Altman Charter Company is the general contractor and the architect is Rosemann & Associates.

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Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Tax credits = reduction in taxes = government $
Community development = government money
Illinois Housing Development Authority = government money
IAHTC eligible charitable contribution. = reduction in taxes = government money

yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn..you bore me

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

a.) You chose to ignore a couple of the sources.
b.) You don't understand financing whatsoever.
c.) I bore you because the subject matter is well over your head dip****,.

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Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Go ahead and state your opinion everybody, but the project is under way, so there's no use arguing about whether or not it's a good idea. Let's see how it turns out and who gets to say, "I told you so".

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

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Bob, the voice of reason. So take that doubters. It's on it's way and you'll probably be dead before the outcome is known. I will be.

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Oh come on, Opie. You can hang on a few more years.

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2020, 12:40 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

Decades from now Opie will be the second oldest person alive, he will be about 6 weeks younger than some Tibetan farmer at 118. He will be on here telling 3Dee why Baron Trump, the accused racist deserves a second term.

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Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2020, 12:49 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

Impressive insult from a lib and

By reducing ones taxes one is in essence getting money from the Government.
This project, while well meaning, is rife with Governmental money flowing to it.
Years ago when in College I minored in Economics. At the time, and I assume still, there were two Economics degrees. One was heavily into Econometrics and the other was taught by the Sociology Department and was basically an exercise in subjective ideas and theories. I can see where your thoughts are regarding financial realities.

Re: Impressive insult from a lib and

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2020, 1:39 am, in reply to "Impressive insult from a lib and"

River, one little bitty tiny thing, and reduced taxes we get from da gubment is our money to begin with. I know it doesnt always appear that way, and that is by design of course.

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Considering that you do not seem to be bothered by how tax dollars are spent/wasted I surmise that you do not pay taxes and really do not have the ability to evaluate investments.
Another day and another lib throwing insults...nothing new here move along move along.

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The windows would be open at the jail? I dont think that would be a good idea these days unless the yard was mined.

Re: Impressive insult from a lib and

Nobody said they weren’t getting “government “ money. They’re also financing construction costs. You’ll find out one day that your minor in economics is about as valuable as toilet paper. It’s only good for one thing.

My partner and I made more money off investments, some with TIF financing, than you will make in your life.

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Not a lib. Just a guy who knows how to use investment opportunities.

Every member of the House and Senate are richer tonight because of the economy of Donald Trump. You're Welcome!

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And for the record, since you insult me by calling me a liberal, I don't believe a CEO should pay a higher tax rate than a person working in retail. I don't believe a corporation should be given enormous tax breaks unless they are tied to projects that create jobs and increased revenues.

There's a difference between using financial availabilities and being a welfare rat.

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Ya, hes not a lib, hes a conservative and a moderate, and no, i dont know how that works, but whatever. Opie seems to have some sort of connection with local Democrats, but on the national level hes a conservative. Maybe thats it, hes a national level conservative and a local level moderate that tilts left. Its possible, my grandpa claimed to be a Republican but liked Mel Price. and some of those crooked East St.Louis politicians back in the day.

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Posted by Tired <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Tired' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2020, 9:48 am, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

The COST is 200k+ for each. This would NEVER fly with massive government (read tax payer funded) involvement. And for the record, my pot could probably fit a few of yours with room to spare. I will move to greener pastures if thhis "progressive" tax passes.

yes yes and you're investing in it

which actually you are if you pay taxes. However you're not going to get any benefits being thats for the "non profit' con men.
Lesson for you.
How do you make a high profit company a non profit?
Pay the man running the con a big salary.

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Im happy to see that many of you are gazillionairs.

How cute...misusing a veteran

So let's see by your reckoning you are going to say that my post is slamming veterans because there is a provision for low income veterans blah blah. The reality is the promoters are often required to do a set aside in order to get their giveaways. You, being the well heeled investor that you are, should know this is simply window dressing the con artists use to sell the idea to the public while stuffing their back pockets.
Remember when the KP was to be a temporary living space for some down on their luck? Temporary...remember?
Anyway it's for the Veterans...yea right.

So you admit you get TIF money

How did we know you were just another Madison County Democrat?

He profits off TIFs he admitted

Another wolf in sheep's clothing identified.
At this point it might even be Mayor Ed himself. Ya gotta admit it spins a lot of things into a Veteran thing so it can then attack calling an opponent against Veterans. How Democrat partyish of it.

They will absorb as much taxpayer funds as a sponge can

meanwhile the schools say they need more funding.

Re: So you admit you get TIF money

You're a riot RB. How anyone can be so without a clue is beyond me. Guess what sonny, Republicans can get money too.

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Re: How cute...misusing a veteran

RB, you have a serious reading comprehension problem so there's not much point in trying to educate you.

As for veterans, the post merely stated that some of the spaces would be reserved for vets. If you're against vets, you're not necessarily a democrat or a republican. You're just a p****.

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Re: They will absorb as much taxpayer funds as a sponge can

Nice leap to the school district on a city involved post. Or don't you understand they are two different governmental bodies.

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Opie seems to have some sort of connection with local Democrats, but on the national level hes a conservative.

Wallace, you'll find that most smart business people are conservative to a point and we understand that there are good points to be made by both parties.

Some peons will never understand that but I'm sure you do.

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Re: How cute...misusing a veteran

Posted by Worker A <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Worker+A' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2020, 1:34 pm, in reply to "Re: How cute...misusing a veteran "

And for the umpteenth time something sailed right over your head. He never once said he was against veterans. He said they could likely be used as a pandering tool for the project.

As for reading comprehension...just remember you thought the following was fact:

In other business the board acted on several financial issues, including approving reappropriation of $21.3 million in unspent funds from last year.

Reappropriation is taking unspent money from the previous budget year and allowing it to be carried over to the next year. Often it is for a specific project or program that are either multi-year, have been delayed, or have been completed but not paid for.

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He is more along the lines of a Romney conservative.

Re: He profits off TIFs he admitted

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2020, 6:36 pm, in reply to "He profits off TIFs he admitted"

I dont like when people say only vets can talk of this or that, or only women can talk about abortion, and on and on. Anyone can talk about anything, now if you want to give some people more credibility on certain things, thats a whole different issue IMO. Everyone has some kind of card they can play.

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I can see that on the local level, on the national level, not so much and its only getting worse.

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by 3Dee <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=3Dee' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 17, 2020, 10:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

The son of a racist will rebel against his upbringing and will probably try to amend the world his father tried to mess up.

He'll be advocating for gun control, civil rights, and for strict environmental regulations.

He'll try to untarnish the Trump name whose legacy will be marred by four years of acting like a two-bit dictator...

Joe Biden is YOUR President!

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Four more years of Trump and my kids inheritance will put them in a higher tax bracket. # lovinmyreturns

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Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 17, 2020, 11:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

Bloomberg will eventually offer Crazy Bernie enough new summer houses to make him go away. His money may be an unbeatable foe.

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 17, 2020, 11:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

Don't you think Bernie could make more money being the President than what Bloomberg could offer him?

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2020, 12:16 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

No, i mean he could make a ton as President, but the Bloomberg buyout would be guaranteed money. If Bernie chooses not to take Bloombergs payoff he still has to beat Trump. Hitlery bought him out for a summer home, Bloomberg could buy him Cuba.

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2020, 12:27 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

Gotcha - a bird in the hand...

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2020, 12:37 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

Sure, Bernie will take whats behind Bloombergs door number two rather than risk it all for the grand prize. Trump is rich, but Bloomberg has more money under his couch than Trump has in the bank.

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2020, 12:44 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

By the way, as part of any Bernie buyout he will be expected to encourage the morons that supported him to transition to Bloomberg. I dont see Bernie as being capable of saying no to a huge payoff, he will take the money just as fast as any capitalist would.

Re: Affordable housing = another KP

Posted by 3Dee <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=3Dee' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2020, 6:10 am, in reply to "Re: Affordable housing = another KP"

Joe Biden is YOUR President!

Re: Edison Lofts

Posted by Picard <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Picard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 22, 2020, 10:41 am, in reply to "Re: Edison Lofts"

I said back on January 2 that he was a fake.

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And on February 22nd nobody cares about what you have to say anymore than they did on January 2.

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