Well Steve, our trip to northern Pa was a total nightmare. By the time we reached our destination traffic came to a near full stop. Never in history did it take more than 3 hours. This nightmare took over 4. Some persons in the group were in the park and decided to run out to stock up on supplies. Bad move! Coming back in, it took almost ah hour to go less than a mile. Hope you outing was better. To make the trip home even worse, we had to take back with us a 13 year old, ailing Labrador Retriever in the back seat with a 97 year old woman, blind in one eye and bitching about the dog that wouldn’t lay down. When it did it laid on her. What a freaking nightmare! I couldn’t shoot the dog… pa does not honor Md., carry permit, so I didn’t take my gun. The only knife I had on my keychaini orly had a 2 inch blade on it. Never again!!