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Re: 1250 Ships and Comet-Authenticast
Your note about rejected models is interesting.... Among the new photos Chris has up is one of an IJN DD (Kagero, maybe?) that was downright comically short-hulled in comparison to the scaling of all of the turrets and superstructure. I wonder if it was a Slonim reject that made it to market after the war...
Good points. The Slonim brothers who started and ran CA until itís demise, did not intentionally make variations of the same ship. Their goal was to sell as much as they could with as little effort as possible. After the war they sold two basic types of models. The first, were models that were either copies of other companies models or were early Comets that the government rejected. The government did not accept any models that were copies of other companies work, in the case of CA, those being copies of Wikings and Tremos. Neither Wiking nor Tremo were in any position to contest CA making copies so the Slonims gladly did so. Although the government rejected these models, the Slonims didnít scrap them or melt them down to reuse the lead. Instead they stored them so they could sell them when the war inevitably would end. The second were those models that the government did accept and which appeared in the wooden boxed sets provided to the military. The Slonims did nothing to modify any of these models. They just cast and sold as many as the market would bear.
What makes it difficult to distinguish some Superiors from original CA models is the fact that initially Superior simply recast many of the models with no changes. Gradually, they made changes, removing the engraved names on the starboard sides, adding boats, anchor chains, tripod masts etc. Added to that Superior copied Framburg and some South Salem and Bessarabis models as well. And they created their own models too. As a result over the many years that Superior has been in business, there have been numerous iterations of some ships.
Note that unless I know a model is a Comet as opposed to something else the models are listed with "1250Ships.com" as the manufacturer. Both Hibiki models I posted today are listed that way as I do not have any evidence of the manufacturer of either of them.
Also given the nature of these models it is quite possible many have been modified by previous owners. The two Hibiki models might have started off identical and then one was modified after purchase by the owner to reflect a different fit.
At any rate I have plenty more Comet/Superior type models still to come. In some cases like US destroyers I probably have 10-15 copies of each major class. If they exhibit variations I'll list each variant separately.
Chances are this is a Superior, not a Comet Authenticast. Superior used the CA molds and did a number of iterations. It is true that CA did more than one version of some ships, as they originally issued models in 1Ē to 110í which were so crude that the U.S. government rejected them. After supplying CA with good plans, CA produced better models which were used in the wood boxed sets supplied to military.
Chris Dailey has a bunch of new used models (oxymoron?) up on his website - which, by the way, is becoming an excellent photo collection site for various maker's models. Anyhow, he has a bunch of Comet Authenticast models newly available, and I learned something new from them.... there were differing versions of the same ship modeled at (apparently) different periods. For example, one of my earliest models was the CA Hibiki, and the model I had is in Chris' new group. But he also has a second one, just like the first, save for it having light AA mounts abreast the A and Z 5" mounts. I've never before seen that model. There are several others like that, mostly destroyers as far as I could see. Anyhow, it's a fun and informative exercise to go through the new offerings and compare!