Re: Make that, "some" collectors will be disappointed...
I think we all have a fondness for the things of our childhood, and in this case the models that got us started. And no, I wouldnít start a kid on Neptuns and the like.
Back in 1958 when I was twelve I started collecting what was then available in the U.S., Comet Authenticast and Framburgs, and still have a fondness for them today, though I only kept a few as examples. Within a couple of years I was scratch building in balsa wood to supplement the limited selection of models that were available. Eaglewall models werenít readily available here. Some Pyros were, but there were few to choose from.
I remember 15-20 years ago seeing folks spending a lot of money on Ebay to reacquire the Triangs that they loved from their youth. I can totally understand why. And the same goes for the folks who loved Tremo and Wiking. And, BTW, Bassett Lowke too.
For myself, what I like to see is a collection displayed that shows a uniformity of quality, as opposed to a broad range. I would never display Wikings together with Neptuns, for instance, Unless the display was of all the same ship. So lets say I wanted to do a display of models of SARATOGA CV 3. Then, a Wiking, Tremo, Delphin, BL, Neptun etc. would make an interesting combination. But otherwise, I would display all Triangs separately, all Tremos separately, etc, as I think that is most appealing. Otherwise as to the post 1960s German made 1250s I donít segregate them, as the quality and detail is generally compatible.
Paul, I should have included you in the top model-makers/producers!
There's no doubt the German companies producing 1/1250 had/have top notch detail, but with prices to match. American & German collectors were spoiled rotten with Autheticast, Framburg, Comet Superior, Navis Neptun, Delphin, Wiking and others. Basset Lowke and Tremo were before my time, but Eaglewalls came along in my childhood and were at pocket money prices and at that price level, encouraged conversion & customising where a lot of us honed our youthful model-making skills. No child is going to mess about with a Neptun! It's interesting that when Charles Shave resurrected Triang Minic, he did indeed go down the pursist route and kept to the simpler detail of the original range.
As I don't have the time/skill/equipment to produce completed, painted models, 1200 offers just that wee bit extra of robustness of the smaller kit parts that have to be handled, trimmed, fitted.
It's a great hobby and I'd like to collect everything - when the lottery comes up, I'll definitely stock up on all the gaps in my Neptun, Saratoga, PaperLab and the like - but I'll still keeping my Eagles!
Well, Bill, I actually do mix and match some, though the majority of my collection is 1250. Itís not so much the scale thatís important to me, as the level of detail of the casting is, and I think youíll agree that historically most 1200 scale producers failed to reach the level of detail achieved by most 1250 producers over the past 50 years. And, while you yourself are a dyed in the wool Eaglewall fan, I think you must admit that what youíre about to produce is a very far cry from those old Eaglewalls. You could have remained a ďpuristĒ yourself, and made these models equal in detail to the old Eaglewalls, but didnít. So going to 1250 instead of 1200, would be no greater departure from the past, than the rest of what youíre doing.
But as a master builder and producer myself, I well understand the problems you mention, respect the choices youíve made, and of course your right to chart whatever course you choose.
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Eaglewall 1/1200 fan(atic) and when I started, making master models in the (very) slightly larger scale, made life easier. I don't have the expertise or advanced moulding/casting equipment of the superb, German producers. Learning the CAD has been a quantum leap in detail for me, but, even in 1/1200 scale, there are parts that just have to be overscale, (e.g. 3" gun barrels comes out at 0.0635 mm!) otherwise the alloy will just not flow into such fine, narrow mould cavities - and we haven't got down to the 20 mms and below! Same goes for aircraft wing cambers. So, 1200 is a comfortable, old shoe for me, but the CAD means you can change scale of the master with a keyboard click and don't have to make a brand new master - but there's no point in me making models in two similar scales.
Like George, I mix and match both scales, but I imagine, Paul, as a purist, when displaying, segregates the scales? (at least with the larger ships, where the difference can indeed show).
Anyway, I can never resist a wee bit of fantasy box art!
P.S. I've gone Imgur mad now!
Thatís a fair point. Since I collect Bassett Lowke, and have other models in 1200 scale as well, I have found the differences sometimes to be barely noticeable. Thatís true of destroyers and smaller ships, but the larger the ship, the more apparent it becomes.
Personally, I have very few qualms about 1/1200 vs 1/1250 models, especially given the occasional loss of scale fidelity that happens during production. To me, it is all about how well and accurately the ship is portrayed, but to each, his/her own.
Many 1250 collectors will be disappointed to hear this. Are you planning to cast these in metal, not plastic?
Ah Paul, you never give on getting me to change scales! They're in 1/1200, but, with CAD, printing them in 1/1250 is only a click of a computer key, although it might mean beefing up some of the finer details such as the smaller gun barrels to allow them to be cast in alloy. I wouldn't have the time to do both scales, but, maybe someone else could do the 1/1250s?
Will these be available in 1250 scale or just 1200?
Well, PERTH is also in the queue -
Now that the CAD is conquered, I just have to see if my 3D printing skills are up to scratch. My "repeat & revise" method of learning the CAD means I have plenty of "virtual" models, at various stages of construction, awaiting printing, so, some might jump the queue if they progress more rapidly, but, at the moment it looks like, POPE, EXETER, DE RUYTER, JAVA - hopefully, this side of April.
And that's my first Imgur image!
Exiting news! A Java/Sumatra and an Exeter in 1942 configuration are extremely welcome!
What is the approximate price of unpainted Clydedale Deruyter?
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