Posted by The Phan on 9/10/2009, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Thing is-"
Only issue I have is... I discovered Shotgun and York. Haha.
And I'll admit to the creation of the Hall. To be honest, at the time I had my reasons. And that's not to say that all these people and more wouldn't have been added had my "reign" gone on longer.
If I remember correctly, much of my decision was based on being able to be in contact with the person to see that they had made it into the Hall.
I also believe that 9LP and Benoit were going into my next induction class. I think my problem was inducting Benoit was the name. Because at the time I received emails from WWE's legal team about the usage of WWE trademarks. So I had to figure out how to rename him for the Hall. And it wasn't the last time I received legal email about XWF encroaching on legal trademarks.
Main reason Carlos was inducted when he was, was because of he was around to see his induction as I wanted to make it special. As well as a big deal was made out of his retirement.
--Previous Message--
: I understand what you're saying. But,
: the beginning of the XWF's success-
: is more important than what happened
: down the stretch. Because, if we
: didn't have a solid opening, and
: create storylines, and dominat
: characters.. there would be no XWF.
: There would be no goals to reach,
: and no- accomplishments set.
:
:
: Sure, back then-- roleplaying wasn't
: as good. But, Jericho, and HHH- were
: very important characters. You DO
: realize that it was ME.. Jericho--
: who went over to ANOTHER XWF site--
: because, they were trying to recruit
: OUR XWF guys.. and-- I ended up
: adding a few superstars from THEIR
: roster-- including XAVIER SUMMERS.
: "The Platinum God" Jeff
: Jericho- and "BIG MATT"
: were two of the men- who competed
: against HHH, Jericho, and Studd.. at
: our first MAJOR pay per-view....
: "INVASION: Worlds
: Collide". That is the PPV that
: jump started this company, and it
: was Jericho-- as the Intercontiental
: Champion- who was the
: lone-survivor.. over- you (as
: Studd), and my brother (as HHH).
: Despite the fact that I was the
: owner... I was still one of the top
: Roleplayers- regardless. I'm also
: the reason why Mars, War Machine,
: YOURSELF, Benoit, and others even
: returned... during the OLD SCHOOL
: Invasion- which was the biggest
: move- in our company's history.
: During that stretch-- 9LP was made
: in to a star, and guys like Shawn
: Taylor, The Guerillas, Jack Tanner,
: Tommy Ravnos, Jesse Jones, and
: others emerged. Right at the end of
: that era-- Carlos Shotgun-- was
: recruited by my brother, and that
: brought Falkenyork along-- because,
: I was posting things on the BOW
: site- at that point.
:
:
: I've been recruiting, writing
: results, and doing roleplays-- for
: YEARS. I put a lot of work in, and
: if people didn't feel Jericho, or
: HHH earned their respect-- fine.
: But, THEY were HALL OF FAMERS--
: wayyy before Jesse Jones, or Number
: 8's breath were even mentioned for
: it... and they were held out...
:
:
: CARLOS SHOTGUN- no offence. But,
: Jericho, and HHH did more for the
: XWF- than you did...... because,
: they accomplished it BEFORE you did.
:
:
: THEN-- much like when I was
: President- and in control.
: Falkenyork, and Benoit were in
: control.. and so was Dan Cowhey--
: and that is when Carlos Shotgun, and
: Chris Falkenyork were made in to
: stars. I wasn't around to know much
: else- of what was going on, and that
: era- was HUGE for the XWF's
: progress. But, the Unlikely
: Alliance- was the original swerve,
: and the Old School invasion- brought
: back all the greats to compete....
:
:
: Jesse Jones accomplshed more than
: Jericho in the XWF? No way. It's
: just impossible. When there were no
: Main Eventers, and people weren't
: showing up... Jericho kept the
: league afloat, and so did HHH. We
: always showed up, and it pushed guys
: like Mars, and War Machine.. to the
: HALL OF FAME. It's funny- because,
: HHH, and Jericho are partially
: responsible for their success-- but,
: they were never added to the HALL OF
: FAME? Why??
:
: JEALOUSY??
:
: ANGER?
:
: I'm not sure. I know there was a
: time- that nobody liked me as
: President, and didn't want to see
: HHH on top of the company. But,
: point blank-- those 2 characters
: changed the face of this company
: forever. You, and Jack Tanner, and
: War Machine... you deserve your
: credit. You've been around for
: YEARS. From the beginning, and you
: all had success in different eras.
: But, the Hall of Fame list- is crap-
: in my eyes. I never liked the
: additions... Sam Hill gets added--
: and- trust me-- I LOVED his
: character. Me, and him- had a GREAT
: feud- when I was THE ROCK. But, you
: simply overlooked 2 of the most
: important guys- in our company's
: history.
:
:
: If anything- Chris Benoit should
: have been added YEARS ago. Before-
: Mars, or War Machine. But, that's
: just one man's opinion.
:
:
:
: Yes-- Savior was no good. Yes- the
: John Studd era lacked skill. But,
: the opening of the company- was MOST
: important-- because, it gave the XWF
: idenity. It's the reason why guys
: like Shotgun, Falkenyork, Crookz,
: Cade Silver, and others-- decided to
: join the company, and dominate at
: the top-level.
:
:
: I RESPECT YOU ALL. Everyone who is
: here now. Everyone in the HALL OF
: FAME-- is cool by me. But, you guys
: missed some names. PERIOD. Jesse
: Jones didn't deserve to be added
: THAT early-- especially- before
: certain past- Champions. Granted--
: John Studd was fine to add-- and
: you- as a handler.... well, it's
: like THE PHAN. He should be added
: for the Guerillas, for Dr. Evil, for
: Dan Cowhey. He did it ALL. But, as a
: President- he's in the HALL OF FAME,
: and The Phan- had a great career..
: but, now-- he's got to earn it... by
: beating-- a HALL OF FAMER- War
: Machine, and trust me-- War Machine,
: and Mars are the 2 guys you didn't
: miss on, and Carlos Shotgun deserves
: a Hall of Fame spot... but, not
: before the ORIGINAL HALL OF FAMERS
: were added. You missed an ENTIRE
: era... and when guys like me, and my
: brother, Suicide King, and 9LP were
: retired-- they went unnoticed in the
: selection process... and others-
: like Jesse Jones, and Number 8, and
: Sam Hill were added. Sam Hill was
: alright. Number 8- okay. You- as
: Jesse Jones- not bad. You all
: essentially deserve the HALL OF
: FAME. But, you missed 3 of the best
: World Champions ever. Where was 9LP
: all along?
:
:
:
: Oh well. Chris Falkenyork didn't add
: himself in the Hall of Fame, and I
: respect him for that. HE KNOWS what
: it's like to roleplay, and run the
: company.. HE KNOWS it's hard not to
: push yourself to the top- when
: you're the best out there. HE
: KNOWS-- it's not easy running the
: federation, and competiting in
: it.... it's not easy, and me, and my
: brother busted our ####ing asses...
: and we weren't even mentioned in our
: own HALL OF FAME. Say what you
: want-- Jesse Jones didn't deserve
: it. Your character didn't do HALF
: the shit we did... up until that
: point. NOW- you're World Champion.
: NOW-- you have accomplished a little
: more. BUT, then-- at that point---
: HHH should have been added-- you
: guys were just hating on him. It's
: not who you personally like.. it's
: about who MADE A DIFFERENCE in the
: XWF. Without HHH... there is no
: XWF.......
:
: He wrote results for over a year,
: and he was a great champion during
: that time. He was believable as a
: leader, and the Old School invasion-
: worked our brilliantly. We brought
: back MANY guys to action, and
: restarted the XWF- right- at - that-
: moment.
:
:
: And- yeah- The Phan started his own
: era-- right after Benoit. And I
: didn't catch much of the
: Falkenyorker- era. But, I want to
: THANK YOU ALL who participated. Guys
: like Shiru Venchiez (spelling??) ..
: and others who I noticed - when I
: checked in.. THANK YOU. I like what
: you did with the place. I like that
: you kept it alive. I like that the
: talent got better, and that matches-
: were more historical. But, DON'T
: FORGET WHERE YOU COME FROM. And you
: guys forgot....
:
:
: THAT'S why there's HALL OF FAME
: spots up for grabs. I want you all
: to EARN IT NOW. Since you are here--
: you came back- for ONE NIGHT ONLY.
: You deserve to be sent off the right
: way-- if YOU WIN. If you SHOW UP,
: and you COMPETE for your spot.
:
:
:
: I love ya Jones. Your handler was
: one of our first World Champions,
: and-- you asked that Jesse Jones
: would never be shoved to the top..
: so- I never put you in the World
: Title scene. You had the best Summer
: of 2008.. with Carlos Shotgun a very
: close- second, and Jon Hampton
: surprised me-- by making XWF his
: home. Falkenyork, myself - as
: Jericho, Rage, Xavier Summers, War
: Machine.. you all showed up, and
: worked hard. I want to thank you
: guys for coming back, and trying
: your best.
:
: I HOPE there's no hard feelings.
: I've only done- what I felt was
: right- at the time. And- I'm back-
: to close- this place- FOR GOOD. The
: XWF was started back in 1998... and
: - it deserves a fitting exit. And
: you all- deserve.. a proper
: send-off. So, try your best. Glad to
: have you all back- for "XTREME
: MANIA DECADE".
:
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