Two more stalling scenarios
Posted by Seattle Coach on 3/9/2010, 11:04 am
Hey guys, I appreciate these types of discussions, as stalling is easily the call that I see as the most subjective (besides calling pins, but that's another discussion). |
These two situations have come up over the past few weeks. Although it is junior high (meaning a lot more sloppy and a lot less experienced), situations like these probably do come up at the higher levels, so I'm interested in the right way to call them.
1) Wrestler A is on top starting in referee's position. On the whistle, B immediately stands up and suddenly they're both out of bounds. I call "out of bounds" and restart. It happens again, and I can't tell if A is running B out or if B is running to the edge. It really looks like B is trying to use "escape by running" and A is using "keep in control by running" but isn't making a big effort to slow B down. I tell both to stay in the center. On the restart, it happens again. This time, B tries to slam on the brakes at the edge and A steamrolls him out of bounds, so I give A a stall warning. On the restart, I see B make a beeline to the edge (A is starting to try to slow him down), then slam on the brakes again. This time, I give B a stall warning.
By this point, both coaches are pointing fingers at the other kid.
How should I have handled it better? Should I have been calling TV's for fleeing instead? I told both to wrestle to center each time we restarted, but both were going towards the OOB line each time. What methods do you use to keep them in the center if they both keep running to the edge?
2) Wrestler A is on top and ahead by 1. Wrestler B keeps getting broken down, then getting back up to his base, then broken down, then back up to his base... you get the idea. Wrestler A is certainly working to break B down, but isn't doing anything to turn B or further apply pressure, just riding (meaning B gets back up easily). He isn't staying on the hips, but he's not trying to apply any form of pinning combination. B is also not attempting to stand up - once he gets to his base he pretty much freezes until he's broken down again.
Since there was continuous (albeit repetitive) action, I elected to let the match continue as-was. At the last second, B reverses A and wins the match. A's coach comes running up and asks, "What does it take to get a stalling call on B?" I explained that both wrestlers had worked to improve position at about the same pace. The coach argued that B didn't really try to get out until the last 10 seconds (which was true, although he did keep coming up to his base), but A wasn't aggressively wrestling to secure the fall, either.
What would you guys call? In a situation like this, where they were pretty much alternating who was advancing and who was freezing, should I just let it go as-is or should I call a stall or even stalemate (although they weren't locked in position) on someone?