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Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Brenda Stuart on June 18, 2011, 12:10 pm I purchased 6 - 6 3/4" plates,5 cups,4 saucers,open sugar, & creamer in Copeland Spode - Spode's Byron Blue & White pattern. Can anyone tell me the approx. age of this china? I know that the coloration of this pattern was changed at some point to a brown & green combination. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Andrew J Pye on June 18, 2011, 2:33 pm, in reply to "Spode's Byron Blue & White" Hi Brenda The answer to your question is probably sitting in front of you! If you can tell us everything that is printed, written or impressed on the back of the pieces you have, then we can almost certainly come up with the answer. Byron is an interesting pattern. The Copeland family were lovers of the arts and supported artists in practical ways. Byron was originally registered in 1851 and appears in at least 4 different colour ways, culminating in the famous 1930s brown and green version, which remained in production for many years. The scenes were taken from illustrations in the Art Journal, which was published from 1849 to 1865 and it was not until the 1930s version that the full range of scenes was used. Your china I guess dates from the 1920s or 1930s, but it may be earlier. Regards Andrew

Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Brenda Stuart on June 19, 2011, 11:58 am, in reply to "Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White" [img]www.flickr.com/photos/brendastuart/[/img]Thank you Andrew. I've posted photos on flickr for you to see & possibly give a more acurate timeframe. Thanks for your help.

Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Andrew J Pye on June 19, 2011, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White" Hi Brenda That printed backstamp was used from 1920 to 1957. Is there anything pressed in the clay on the backs of plates? A letter plus two numbers? I cannot see from the image, but is there a letter in the top left of the rectangle of the printed backstamp. Regards Andrew

Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Brenda Stuart on June 19, 2011, 12:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White" There is a 2 in the top left corner of the stamp & small black #'s printed on each piece that range from 1 - 6 on all pieces. The saucers also have an IS or 15 over an O carved into the clay & glazed over. This doesn't show on any other pieces. Brenda

Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Andrew J Pye on June 19, 2011, 1:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White" Hi Brenda The "2" means it is definitely the 1920 to 1957 backstamp. The IS or 15 over O does not fit and I wonder if it is in fact O over 51. The letter should be above the two numbers. If it is that it is the date code for October 1951, being the date of manufacture. Regards Andrew

Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Brenda Stuart on June 19, 2011, 1:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White" Yes it could be an O over 51. You have been very helpfull. I've learned some new things through our little chat. Thank you Brenda

Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White Posted by Andrew J Pye on June 19, 2011, 1:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Spode's Byron Blue & White" Hi again I am sure it is O over 51. The 5 they used was slightly odd and angular. Just refreshed my memory about Byron. The blue version was pattern number S1688 and was introduced in 1936 and discontinued about 1966. Regards Andrew

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