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TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN Posted by GIOVANNI PISANO on November 4, 2009, 8:42 am 89.96.249.99 Good afternoon, four or five years ago, I found a couple of blue and white plates. I liked them and I bought. When home I tried to discover who had made them, but at the moment, the manufacturer’s name remain a mystery. Last year I became member of Your Organization: I have tried, looking for an equal or similar pattern among the thousands that You list. The actual result is that I have not been able to find anything similar. So I describe plates hoping that someone may resolve my questions. The diameter of the two plates is 24 cm, the first has traces of over glazed colours, the second one has more traces of over glazed colours. On the back there are rims an on the first one there is a 7 under glazed printed on the external edge, on the second one there is a T at the right hand of the mark. The marks that appear on plates are similar but not equal. All two plates have a 995 hand written in red down the marks. http://picasaweb.google.com/JP30091944/005?authkey=Gv1sRgCL-D5dzhyaWUJQ#5399991769341234946 http://picasaweb.google.com/JP30091944/005?authkey=Gv1sRgCL-D5dzhyaWUJQ#5399991781890633362 http://picasaweb.google.com/JP30091944/005?authkey=Gv1sRgCL-D5dzhyaWUJQ#5399991822604495042 http://picasaweb.google.com/JP30091944/005?authkey=Gv1sRgCL-D5dzhyaWUJQ#5399991840636863874 Thanking You in advance and hoping You will do Your best in order to discover who made them and the period of production, I beg You to accept my best wishes. Giovanni Pisano Via A. Gramsci 16 15030 VILLANOVA MONFERRATO (AL) Italy e-mail giovanni.pisano.20@alice.it  Post a Response

Re: TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN Posted by Judie Siddall on November 4, 2009, 1:19 pm, in reply to "TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN" 76.200.100.80 I have a soup bowl in this pattern that is brightly colored. The marks on the back are the same as your marks. There is no pattern name, but the same pattern when found on Gaudy Dutch is known as War Bonnet. The pattern is found on pp. 54-56 in "The Collector's Encyclopedia of Gaudy Dutch and Gaudy Welsh" by John A. Shuman III, 1991. Gaudy Dutch, as you probably know, was made in Staffordshire for the American Market, and found great popularity with the Pennsylvania Dutch.  Post a Response

Re: TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN Posted by GIOVANNI PISANO on November 5, 2009, 9:37 am, in reply to "Re: TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN" 89.96.249.99 Good afternoon, I thank You very much for the reply that has opened new spaces of knowledge; added to the reply of the other member that has replied, make clear all the mistery. I hoped to find friends but I think I have found a new family. Thank You once again and have a nice weekend. Giovanni Pisano.  Post a Response

Re: TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN Posted by Andrew J Pye on November 4, 2009, 10:36 am, in reply to "TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN" 84.92.89.69 Hello Giovanni Attractive design, which I do not think I have seen before. My first thought on seeing the design and plate shape was Ridgway and the backstamp bears this out. For some reason John & William Ridgway produced some wares with only that plain double square backstamp and they used that form of pattern number. I do not know of any other maker doing the same, but somebody out there may have an alternative suggestion. Pattern number 995 would date to about 1826 or 7. Regards Andrew  Post a Response

Re: TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN Posted by GIOVANNI PISANO on November 5, 2009, 9:55 am, in reply to "Re: TWO BLUE & WHITE PLATES UNKNOWN" 89.96.249.99 Good afternoon, I thank You very much for the reply that has cleared my doubts (unexpressed: I knew that Ridgway brothers marked whith a pattern number in red their wares and many times did not print any mark) I have other plates by Ridgway someone made after the separation of two brothers and after 1844 (numbers ranged between 3000 and 9999 and colors under glazed), but not having a list of pattern for reference, it was impossible for me to establish the period of time of the production. You have really centered the question and I have only to bend myself down in front of You. Moreover while asking the question, I hoped to find friends but I think I have found a new family. Thank You once again and have a nice weekend. Giovanni Pisano  Post a Response

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