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Re: Spatial Mass Shift

 --Previous Message-- : : I suspect that what you have succeeded in doing is shown in very basic : terms : how a singularity causes spatial mass shift or to put in simple terms you : have shifted the distribution of an objects mass from one set of spatial : reference points to another causing a collapse. : It is possible that if you use sufficient energy and heaving metals or : isotopes you could actually cause a singularity to form. : : Hi John, : : However, the measured mass, volume, and density of the coins I shrink is : the same before and after. Is this consistent with your proposal? The : effects I see appear to be due only to reshaping of material with no : actual change in mass or density. : : Bert : Hi bert, : without examining a coin I cannot be certain and please understand that my : view of physics is not the standard model. : I hate to use an analogy but here goes : visualise if you can a red balloon. : Now look at the ballon before you pressurise it, it is small and flat. : Now apply a flow of pressurise air to it until it is half inflated. : other than the air pressure changing internally what has physically : changed about the balloon? : Now fully inflate the balloon other than the air pressure changing : internally what has physically changed about the balloon? : Now imagine that instead of air within the balloon there was energy. : Now release the air/energy, what happens to the ballon : Now imagine that the balloon has the gravity of our Sun. : What will happen to the gravity field as you release the Balloon Suns : Air/energy? : : : Hi John, : : Ok. Let's suppose your physics model applied to my shrunken coins. What : properties should be different between a regular and and a shrunken coin? : What physical differences would you look for? I could also take a coin : that you have previously measured, shrink it, and you could then conduct : further tests to see if the expected changes occured. : : The model I usually use to describe the coin shrinking process is that of : a disk made from pliable modeling clay. If you now squeeze the disc : uniformly from the perimeter, it becomes thicker as its diameter : decreases. During the shrinking process, the coin plastically deforms as : the magnetic force greatly exceeds its yield stength. However, although : the coins change appearance, the mass, volume, and density remain : unaltered (at least to the precision of our measurements). : : We do find that the grain structure of the coin's metals/alloys become : finer as larger crystals are broken by plastic flow during the compression : phase. The coin's alloys also become work-hardened, and there may be some : surface oxidation from the heat created by joule and mechanical : deformation. However, these metallurgical effects appear to be consistent : with the torture we have applied to the coins. : : Bert : Hi Bert, Have you made a conductivity comparison? Have you applied a Gamma source and measured bremsstrahllung? John : : :

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