Posted by Iranian on August 16, 2006, 8:11 pm, in reply to "Re: tell us what is wrong? - Oslonor" First of all no such thing as Azeri Turk. Now why would we have Azeri Turk in Afghanistan you are way off? Afghanistan and its people are of the original Ironic people that settled this area, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan all that you see that ends with “Istan” was part of Iran and its people they are all Caucasian or Aryan people. Turks are a form of Mongol however because they lived north of the Mongol tribes for hundreds of years and battling the people lived in Russia they had tremendous mixing between them, that is why it was much easier for Arabs to accept the Turks as slaves rather than Mongols which everyone hated they were able to mix easier with the population but they still have some Mongol attributes and bone structure depending on the person and how much the family’s intermixed. You really need to do some soul searching, Azeri have nothing to do with Turks, never did never will. They are of Caucasian back ground they are part of Iranian people always were and have been. How do you come up with this information that Azeri are Turks no Turks lived in this area from Cyrus the great until the Arab invasion. You are lost, find your way back.
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Azeri is a new name that Russians gave this nation they stole from us they are Arranis and yes they are Iranian from the Iranian tribes and they have nothing to do with Turks even though the language was forced on all of us just like Arabic majority of Iranians never changed. Kurds are Iranian speak an Indo-Iranian language.
Every region has a different look and looks has nothing to do with it, being Caucasian or Aryan has to do with bone structure, look at India big mixture with Dravidians that lived in India before Iranians but they all have the same bone structure and every where you read you will see they are Caucasian even though they mostly look 50 shades darker than Iranians.
What language Azeri speaks Turkish? Hell even the courts to this day and Turkish courts spoke Farsi, Azeri have no language other than Farsi and Turkish. You are very confused about Azeri language no Turks lived in this region until after the Arab conquest.
Kazaks are perfect example of the Turks that moved completely into Russia and lived amongst the Russians but still you could see the difference of the Mongol look, but again not enough of them and as a minority moving into territories taking wives changed their disgusting Mongoloid look. Mongols and Turks are of the same race but Mongols and Manchurians and Chinese had more intermixing, and Turks mixed more with Russians.
Turkey and its people are not Turks minority of the people lived in Turkey are Turks and you see little or no Turks left in this nation, the population are Macedonians, Romans, Greeks and Persians and this is for thousands of years before Tartar sag arrival.
--Previous Message--
: # Are Azeris Persians or Kurds?: The
: Azeri nationalist claim that Azeris
: are Persians or Medes (kurds) but
: speak Turkish language. They also
: claim that they originate from
: Medes. The reason is that they want
: to carry out their policies under
: the banner of Pan-Iranism. There are
: two problems with this theory. First
: the Azeris do not look like Persians
: or Kurds. Secondly, the seljuck
: Turks who are the ancestors of
: Azeris ruled over the whole Persia.
: Why the rest of Iran not speaking
: Azeri language if they impose it on
: Persia? Why Kurds are not speaking
: Azeri language? The remnants of
: Talish persian speaking minority in
: Azerbaijan is precisely the proof
: that Seljuk Turks did not impose
: Azeri language. Of course those who
: had Azeri language as their native
: language spoke Azeri not because it
: was imposed, but because it was
: their native language. Not only
: Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri
: language but they even adopted
: Persian language is the language of
: the Elite of Seljuks.
:
: # No Azeris Turks in Afghanistan:
: There are no Azeri Turks in
: Afghanistan. This shows that Azeri
: Turks are not native to this region.
: All other natives of Iran are some
: way related to ethnic groups in
: Afghanistan.
:
: # Are Turks Mongols?: Azeris claim
: that Turks look like Mongols similar
: to Uzbeks. Azeris are
: "Caucasian" whatever that
: means. Therefore Azeris are not
: really turks. Actually some
: mongolian tribes have adopted the
: turkish language but in reality
: ethnically they are not turks.
: Mongols are Mongols and they are not
: Turks. The real turks are the
: Azeris. This is even clear in
: central asia. The Kazaks are the
: union of the Turk and Mongol tribes,
: who lived on the territory of the
: modern Kazakhstan approximately in
: the first century B.C., were the
: forebears of Kazakhs. This clearly
: shows that Mongols are not really
: turks.
:
: # Pan-Turkism and Russians: Actually
: the whole fraud and falsifications
: about the nature of Azeri Turks were
: invented in the Soviet Union in
: 1930's under Stalin. The reason is
: Soviet Union feared Pan-Turkism and
: invented a separate identity for
: each ethnic group who spoke Turkish
: in Caucaus and central asia. Azeris
: became "Iranian" and
: central asians became sogdians and
: baktrians. This propoganda was
: adopted by some Azeris in Iran such
: as Kasravi and promoted in Iran. All
: of the propoganda were lies. Azeris
: are Turks. Today Azeri Turk ruling
: elite is using this propoganda to
: present itself with the label of
: "Iranian" tribe and
: continue the plunder of resources
: from the natives of Iran.
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: Azeri are not Turks and no such
: thing
: ever existed, after the Turk rule
: some bastards may have mixed with
: natives but Azeri are Iranian of
: Iranian tribes they are Caucasians
: not Tartar grow up with
: missinformation.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Azeri Turks arrival in Iran is
: placed
: sometimes around 11 century A.D.
: There are no Azeri Turks in
: Afghanistan. That shows that Azeri
: Turks are not native to this region.
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