Posted by oslonor on August 16, 2006, 6:11 am, in reply to "Re: tell us what is wrong? - Oslonor" # No Azeris Turks in Afghanistan: There are no Azeri Turks in Afghanistan. This shows that Azeri Turks are not native to this region. All other natives of Iran are some way related to ethnic groups in Afghanistan. # Are Turks Mongols?: Azeris claim that Turks look like Mongols similar to Uzbeks. Azeris are "Caucasian" whatever that means. Therefore Azeris are not really turks. Actually some mongolian tribes have adopted the turkish language but in reality ethnically they are not turks. Mongols are Mongols and they are not Turks. The real turks are the Azeris. This is even clear in central asia. The Kazaks are the union of the Turk and Mongol tribes, who lived on the territory of the modern Kazakhstan approximately in the first century B.C., were the forebears of Kazakhs. This clearly shows that Mongols are not really turks. # Pan-Turkism and Russians: Actually the whole fraud and falsifications about the nature of Azeri Turks were invented in the Soviet Union in 1930's under Stalin. The reason is Soviet Union feared Pan-Turkism and invented a separate identity for each ethnic group who spoke Turkish in Caucaus and central asia. Azeris became "Iranian" and central asians became sogdians and baktrians. This propoganda was adopted by some Azeris in Iran such as Kasravi and promoted in Iran. All of the propoganda were lies. Azeris are Turks. Today Azeri Turk ruling elite is using this propoganda to present itself with the label of "Iranian" tribe and continue the plunder of resources from the natives of Iran.
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# Are Azeris Persians or Kurds?: The Azeri nationalist claim that Azeris are Persians or Medes (kurds) but speak Turkish language. They also claim that they originate from Medes. The reason is that they want to carry out their policies under the banner of Pan-Iranism. There are two problems with this theory. First the Azeris do not look like Persians or Kurds. Secondly, the seljuck Turks who are the ancestors of Azeris ruled over the whole Persia. Why the rest of Iran not speaking Azeri language if they impose it on Persia? Why Kurds are not speaking Azeri language? The remnants of Talish persian speaking minority in Azerbaijan is precisely the proof that Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri language. Of course those who had Azeri language as their native language spoke Azeri not because it was imposed, but because it was their native language. Not only Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri language but they even adopted Persian language is the language of the Elite of Seljuks.
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: Azeri are not Turks and no such thing
: ever existed, after the Turk rule
: some bastards may have mixed with
: natives but Azeri are Iranian of
: Iranian tribes they are Caucasians
: not Tartar grow up with
: missinformation.
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: Azeri Turks arrival in Iran is
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: sometimes around 11 century A.D.
: There are no Azeri Turks in
: Afghanistan. That shows that Azeri
: Turks are not native to this region.
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