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Posted by vesperae I completely understand your reasons for wanting to keep the more extreme aspects of your Dark Fantasies to yourself, and I think that by themselves (without a little bit of context), even most of those in the SF Community wouldn’t be able to understand them, and would probably be put off by them. (As they also would by most of the ideas discussed here; no judgment on my part, I’m just sharing my impression.) But I suspect that you would agree that your Dark Fantasies, and indeed most all of the Dark Fantasies found in DS stories and images like the ones I create for this forum, are really more about engaging and titillating our internalized sense of the Risks of smoking, than they are about suggesting a real world desired outcome. What is most interesting to me about your DS SF is that it seems to be essentially the inverse of the central premise of this forum, which is that awareness of the Risks of smoking makes it more attractive to those who are tempted to smoke, and to those who continue to smoke. It’s only one piece of the puzzle, but it’s a key piece that I believe most prospective smokers and current smokers are motivated by on at least a subconscious level. Your perspective seems to be that you are obviously fully conscious and aware of the Risks and, as a result, experience not only an attraction to the smoking of others, but also a firm resolve to remain a non-smoker yourself. In fact, your commitment to fitness (discussed previously) would seem to be a further extension of the same things that motivate you to remain a non-smoker. Your personal decisions about smoking strike me as the flip side of the same psychological coin that smokers experience, only much more intense, since you obviously have developed a Fetish response. My question about whether you would find your GF’s smoking as attractive as you do if she had a more knowing relationship with the Risks of smoking wasn’t about whether she takes pleasure in thinking about her actual physical decline. M G F doesn’t take pleasure in thinking about this either, as I understand her remarks here. Again, taking pleasure in Risk and Danger are one thing, but taking pleasure in actual real world illness, disease, and premature death are quite another. So my question wasn’t about whether you would enjoy it if your GF acknowledged and discussed thoughts of actual lung damage and a general physical decline due to smoking, but rather how you would feel if she told you that she found the notion of the Risks of smoking to be exciting. I see the two as being very different things. After having the opportunity to read your reflections and to converse with you over these past few years, I get the impression that you seem to have something of a subtle S&M dynamic going on in the way that you think about yourself, your GF, and your relationship. And an important part of this seems to obviously be keeping this to yourself. Does this idea resonate at all for you? If you’re interested, I could certainly say more about where I’m going with this, but am concerned about not over-stepping your comfort level at a public forum. And, if I’ve said too much here, let me know and I’ll delete this reply, and we can continue via email if you’d prefer. And again, please don’t read any judgment into my comments here, because I certainly don’t feel any. Thank you for sharing your thoughtful remarks! * * * * *vesperae
on March 24, 2007, 6:22 pm, in reply to "Re: So much more fun to be the 'Villain' of the piece."
Hi Pete, 
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